Yup. The Q&A was good. The updates coming will be nice. Tomorrow, right? :)

On 10/14/2016 2:38 PM, Rick Harnish wrote:

Did Jesse get everything resolved satisfactorily yesterday?

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On Oct 12, 2016 11:37 PM, Rick Harnish <rick.harn...@baicells.com> wrote:


    It sounds like you probably just need some tender loving care from
    our support team. I wish we weren't in the middle of WISPAPALOOZA.
    I'll see if Jesse can call you tomorrow. Send me a good number to
    call you at off list. Is your sector down tilt set correctly?

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    On Oct 12, 2016 10:33 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

        Maybe one tree up close, say 50-100 feet, is, as you describe,
        probably not much of an issue. Sure, you can call this NLOS.

        A cluster of trees a 1/4, 1/2 or a mile away, maybe you can't
        really see the tower, I still consider enough LOS for RF
        wavelength. We do these kinds of shots with PMP450 today and
        it works fine. This is what I'd call good nuf LOS aka
        near-LOS. As Ken says, sometimes this can actually improve the
        signal. Clip that fresnel zone just right and you can get a
        boost. And we did find that -/+45 does help a bit for these
        kinds of shots.

        The NLOS I'm talking about is an entire town full of trees.
        All up in your face. Even surrounding the tower. A forest
        town. Where 900 barely works. A place where we're considering
        doing fiber instead (preferably in the ground so we don't get
        that other kind of "tree fade"). That's what we're dealing
        with. It is nuckin futs. The power levels we're seeing really
        does not surprise me. Leaves are coming down too. Should've
        had it up a month ago.

        BTW, we're doing 10MHz channel width. There's too much other
        gear around to try to get away with 20MHz.

        On 10/12/2016 9:59 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote:

        Ive been running baicells since june. We have over 16 links
        around .5 to 1 miles going through trees like they don't exist
        getting 80mb down. �A mile of trees might be pushing it ;)

        Craig Schmaderer
        Cell 402-380-1245
        Skywave Wireless, Inc.

        *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com>
        <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of George Skorup
        <geo...@cbcast.com> <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>
        *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2016 9:17:37 PM
        *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] i need an adult
        Aggregate. The guys were out with one CPE moving around. The
        -115 RSRP location was giving about 140ms latency. From what I
        heard anyway. Doesn't surprise me seeing as how the uplink
        bandwidth was pretty much nothing.

        We're going to try switching a couple customers from 900 FSK
        over to this thing tomorrow.

        On 10/12/2016 9:09 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

        7 Mbps per sub or aggregate?� I assume aggregate.� Well,
        OK, if you only have 1 sub they�re� the same.


        Yes definitely, log CINR and modulation.


        Also might want to do a ping test and measure min/avg/max
        latency and pkt loss.



        *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George
        *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:09 PM
        *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] i need an adult


        So far we're seeing no better than about -88 RSRP. Most places
        we tested was right around -100. All Non-LOS. Very Non-LOS.
        Within a mile. And the nitwits didn't get my memo that I
        wanted to collect CINRs and mod rates too. They were able to
        still get about 7Mbps down (less than 50kbps up tho) with
        about a -115 RSRP. And I did double check that we're not
        exceeding the 1W/MHz EIRP cap. We're going to do some more
        testing tomorrow.

        On 10/11/2016 8:58 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

            I hope it works for you through the solid mile of trees,
            I�m skeptical though.� It seems to me like a golfer
            trying every new brand of club and ball that comes out
            hoping to find one that goes straight through a mile of
            trees to the green.� You may get incremental
            improvement, but I know people in that situation whose
            cellphones don�t work.



            *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
            *George Skorup
            *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 11:37 PM
            *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] i need an adult


            I haven't changed or turned on anything new facing you.
            And I don't do alternate freqs on the 450's even though
            sometimes LBT goes to hell. Things have really calmed down
            since moving the entire 450 network from 13.2.1 to 14.1.2

            We are going to be testing a Baicell tomorrow in an
            isolated area and not even facing you. Just FYI. I have it
            down in the lower half of the band to step on the UBNT
            shit which I don't really care about anyway. A straight
            mile deep trees, so I doubt we'll even see it on any other

            On 10/10/2016 11:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

                Ive been beating the hell out of my network this last
                week with the 320 going to shit. The UBNT 3ghz hasnt
                gotten any worse that it was

                I went as far as shutting down the majority of the 3
                ghz to get spectrums. Went through and coordinated the
                network based on those. i added QOS profiles with
                harq, it got me management of most of the CPEs, the
                customer experience is deplorable, theyre all probably
                trump supporters.

                Im going to let this sit for a few more days to see if
                Im just fighting the atmosphere. If it doesnt resolve,
                Ill need to hail mary and expert for a paid gig to get
                on my network with me for a few hours one evening soon
                and put into words for my boss just why it is he
                should not hire incompetent boobs like me to run his
                network, and hopefully offer some advice on how i can
                save face.

                im getting in a bunch of packetflux so all the 320 is
                synced (there are a few outliers that never got sync
                as other projects took priority and I have a couple
                base units that lost communication with the
                syncinjectors. I figure if I get everything on the
                same sync product I unsure theres not some diode
                between manufacturer products offsetting the puls by a
                few nanoseconds.

                I see a forklift in the near term of ubnt 3ghz to epmp
                5ghz to free up spectrum for 450, which i assume will
                destroy the remaining 320.



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