The integrated 450i sector antenna does indeed have a 2 degree electrical 
downtilt.  As noted below, it does have tremendous null-fill, as well as 
optimized Front-to-back isolation to allow frequency re-use patterns.

Yes, this downtilt is a departure from our OEM antennas.  This should appear in 
the spec sheet. I will update it so that it is clearly called out, as it is 
different.

Matt

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i Integrated

That is exactly what I saw.

Also when using it in link planner it is showing optimum throughput for our 
current subscribers setting at 3 degrees up tilt.
If old panel is used in Link Planner it shows -1 degrees down tilt.

So I am guessing -4 electrical down tilt.

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 12:08 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i Integrated

The pattern on the spec sheet would lead you to believe yes, which is a 
departure for Cambium.  It also shows null fill.  I don't see a downtilt number 
on the spec sheet though.


From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 1:59 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i Integrated

Does this new 90 degree integrated sector have built in down tilt?

Thanks

Adam

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel White
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 4:11 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i Integrated

I think Ken is confusing the Integrated model with the letter A at the end of 
the PN vs. the new one ending in the letter B.  You want the on in the attached 
Spec Sheet.

The new Integrated 450i has better antenna specs than the old integrated model 
and the Cambium 5GHz sector.  The feedback I've heard has been mostly positive, 
although the integrated model prevents you from turning up the TX power by 
playing with the antenna gain settings.  So if your overdriving your gear - it 
might not be a good investment.

Daniel White
Managing Director - Hardware Distribution Sales
ConVergence Technologies
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:00 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i Integrated

That is the type of information I need.  I was not aware the specs on the 
intergraded were poor.  We have never been very happy with the performance of 
the 85009324001.  That begs the question.  What 90 degree antenna is giving 
great results?

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 2:18 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i Integrated

Why would you do that?  I thought the integrated was more of a convenience 
thing, but at the expensive of sidelobe and F/B performance.

You could swap out the 450 AP for a 450i AP with the same antenna if you are 
wanting to run in U-NII-1 or use 40 MHz channels.
Or there is an MTI 90 degree sector that supposedly has better sidelobe and F/B 
performance if that's what you  are looking for.


From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 4:07 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450i Integrated

Has anyone replaced a 450 AP and 90 degree antenna (model 85009324001) with a 
450i Integrated?

I would like to know if coverage was same / better, and the level of 
performance improvement?

Thanks

Adam

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