The 110 and 450d is the sub-reflector assembly type. The Force200 took the electronics into the feed and dipole at the end.

On 10/24/2016 5:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

What’s the difference between Force 200 and 450d? Cassegrain feed vs subreflector in radome? Sheesh, make up your mind. Is it a cost thing?

*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
*Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 4:43 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

I believe that's the idea, yes. Be interesting to see how they cram all of the guts onto a board at the Force200 size integrated feed tube dipole setup. I guess it doesn't have to be exactly the same size.

Be nice if they kept sync-over-power capability to spin a PTP variant. Hint hint. That's one thing I wish the Force200 had. IMHO.

On 10/24/2016 4:16 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

    I heard that the new 450i SM that will be end of 2017 will be
    possibly the Force 200 form factor and will be un-capped for $299.00

    On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        We’ll see if Matt or Aaron jumps in, but I suspect the answer
        is yes and no.  The 450D definitely knows it’s an integrated
        antenna, the external gain field is locked, but likely that’s
        just something programmed into NV storage.  For more CPU
        horsepower, I suspect you want the 450i SM which AFAIK still
        comes only in connectorized and integrated panel versions and
        costs $$$.

        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
        *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 9:49 AM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

        Does the 450D have the exact same internal PCB board has
        original 450SM's? Reason I am asking is does the 45D have
        capability of getting more throughput to each individual SM vs
        the original 450 which capped out at about 70mbps. I am
        wondering because with the extra wide channels coming with 450
        (40mhz) can we expect more speed to the clients?

        On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Matt
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Old thread but do you see 3db more signal with them vs a
            standard sm with reflector?

            On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                We use them a lot.  Most installs.

                Adam

                *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White
                *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:13 PM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

                Personally I like them. Reflectors and the classic
                Canopy case SM’s are certainly more popular though.

                There are a number of WISP’s that buy them though. I
                think the 4 pack and only 20Mbps/Unlimited keys turns
                some people off.

                Daniel White

                Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

                ConVergence Technologies

                Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590>

                [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

                *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
                *timothy steele
                *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:06 PM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

                Looks like power and gain are the same but the 450d
                has more of a narrow antenna pattern then using a dish
                so I would expect to see better results don't have 1
                to try though..

                On Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 5:55 PM Jon Langeler
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    Someone bought one that's not government?

                    Jon Langeler
                    Michwave Technologies, Inc.

                    > On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Matt
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
                    >
                    > Has anyone compared a PMP450d to a PMP450 5ghz
                    SM with reflector?  I
                    > have a problem CPE I need just a bit more gain
                    and wandered if that
                    > will get me over the hump.
                    >
                    > What about a 3.65 SM with reflector vs the
                    PMP450 3.6 with integrated antenna?

                
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