Assembling a Force 200 is nothing like a Force 110, I actually prefer the design to the PowerBeams - yes, there are a few screws you have to put in, instead of just sticking it together, but it only takes a few seconds longer and it doesn't get all rattly after it's been up awhile like PowerBeams do...
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote: > Why can't someone make an SM with some gain that has the ease of assembly > of the newer Nanobeams? I never have assembled a Force 200 but the old > Force 110 was a PITA compared to a simple Nanobeam. Also I really welcome > this new style of SM with un-capped throughput at possibly at the $299 > price level. The 450i SM's coming in at over $500/each is way to much for > normal residential customers. There is no need for residential accounts to > have that expensive ruggedized hardware in my area. So next question, will > this new SM have a Gigabit or 10/100 Ethernet port? Also will it be 24v or > 48v POE? Hopefully its still 24v because most of us will be swapping out > existing 450 SM's with these and when the customers not home and needing to > change the POE injector is going to be a huge issue. > > Also if this integrated dish CPE that's un-capped will be $299 then that > means they need a non-integrated non-dished CPE in the $200 price level, > maybe phase out the P11 hardware for some P12 or P13 hardware with original > SM form factor and un-capped throughput!!!! > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Oh, like UBNT and their “InnerFeed”. Was never fond of that. Especially >> the first versions which begged for water intrusion. >> >> >> >> Seems like there would be some heat dissipation issues doing that with >> 450/450i electronics. >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup >> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 5:38 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector >> >> >> >> The 110 and 450d is the sub-reflector assembly type. The Force200 took >> the electronics into the feed and dipole at the end. >> >> On 10/24/2016 5:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> What’s the difference between Force 200 and 450d? Cassegrain feed vs >> subreflector in radome? Sheesh, make up your mind. Is it a cost thing? >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *George Skorup >> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 4:43 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector >> >> >> >> I believe that's the idea, yes. Be interesting to see how they cram all >> of the guts onto a board at the Force200 size integrated feed tube dipole >> setup. I guess it doesn't have to be exactly the same size. >> >> Be nice if they kept sync-over-power capability to spin a PTP variant. >> Hint hint. That's one thing I wish the Force200 had. IMHO. >> >> On 10/24/2016 4:16 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: >> >> I heard that the new 450i SM that will be end of 2017 will be possibly >> the Force 200 form factor and will be un-capped for $299.00 >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We’ll see if Matt or Aaron jumps in, but I suspect the answer is yes and >> no. The 450D definitely knows it’s an integrated antenna, the external >> gain field is locked, but likely that’s just something programmed into NV >> storage. For more CPU horsepower, I suspect you want the 450i SM which >> AFAIK still comes only in connectorized and integrated panel versions and >> costs $$$. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser >> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 9:49 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector >> >> >> >> Does the 450D have the exact same internal PCB board has original >> 450SM's? Reason I am asking is does the 45D have capability of getting more >> throughput to each individual SM vs the original 450 which capped out at >> about 70mbps. I am wondering because with the extra wide channels coming >> with 450 (40mhz) can we expect more speed to the clients? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Matt <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Old thread but do you see 3db more signal with them vs a standard sm with >> reflector? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> We use them a lot. Most installs. >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:13 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector >> >> >> >> Personally I like them. Reflectors and the classic Canopy case SM’s are >> certainly more popular though. >> >> >> >> There are a number of WISP’s that buy them though. I think the 4 pack >> and only 20Mbps/Unlimited keys turns some people off. >> >> >> >> Daniel White >> >> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales >> >> ConVergence Technologies >> >> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *timothy steele >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:06 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector >> >> >> >> Looks like power and gain are the same but the 450d has more of a narrow >> antenna pattern then using a dish so I would expect to see better results >> don't have 1 to try though.. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 5:55 PM Jon Langeler <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Someone bought one that's not government? >> >> Jon Langeler >> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >> >> > On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Has anyone compared a PMP450d to a PMP450 5ghz SM with reflector? I >> > have a problem CPE I need just a bit more gain and wandered if that >> > will get me over the hump. >> > >> > What about a 3.65 SM with reflector vs the PMP450 3.6 with integrated >> antenna? >> >> >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> >> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
