Does wideband include 4.9ghz? On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote:
> Some thoughts… > > > > - 450i SM was never intended for residential installation… but > because it shares similar hardware to the 450i AP is the only SM today > capable of wider channels and other goodness (also 5.2GHz as Ken pointed > out). Cambium is in a lot of markets where the ruggedized AP case was > needed on the SM side. > > - The Force200 is dirt simple to put together Kurt. Much easier > than the Force 110 or even an old 27RD > > - The wideband SM design will also have version similar to the > Force 180 > > > > Daniel White > > Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales > > ConVergence Technologies > > Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > [email protected] > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 6:49 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector > > > > And if you want to run your 450i AP in 5.1-5.3 GHz, the only SM choices > are those expensive 450i SMs. It’s not like you can buy a 5.2 GHz 450 SM. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 7:06 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector > > > > Why can't someone make an SM with some gain that has the ease of assembly > of the newer Nanobeams? I never have assembled a Force 200 but the old > Force 110 was a PITA compared to a simple Nanobeam. Also I really welcome > this new style of SM with un-capped throughput at possibly at the $299 > price level. The 450i SM's coming in at over $500/each is way to much for > normal residential customers. There is no need for residential accounts to > have that expensive ruggedized hardware in my area. So next question, will > this new SM have a Gigabit or 10/100 Ethernet port? Also will it be 24v or > 48v POE? Hopefully its still 24v because most of us will be swapping out > existing 450 SM's with these and when the customers not home and needing to > change the POE injector is going to be a huge issue. > > > > Also if this integrated dish CPE that's un-capped will be $299 then that > means they need a non-integrated non-dished CPE in the $200 price level, > maybe phase out the P11 hardware for some P12 or P13 hardware with original > SM form factor and un-capped throughput!!!! > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh, like UBNT and their “InnerFeed”. Was never fond of that. Especially > the first versions which begged for water intrusion. > > > > Seems like there would be some heat dissipation issues doing that with > 450/450i electronics. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 5:38 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector > > > > The 110 and 450d is the sub-reflector assembly type. The Force200 took the > electronics into the feed and dipole at the end. > > On 10/24/2016 5:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > What’s the difference between Force 200 and 450d? Cassegrain feed vs > subreflector in radome? Sheesh, make up your mind. Is it a cost thing? > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 4:43 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector > > > > I believe that's the idea, yes. Be interesting to see how they cram all of > the guts onto a board at the Force200 size integrated feed tube dipole > setup. I guess it doesn't have to be exactly the same size. > > Be nice if they kept sync-over-power capability to spin a PTP variant. > Hint hint. That's one thing I wish the Force200 had. IMHO. > > On 10/24/2016 4:16 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > > I heard that the new 450i SM that will be end of 2017 will be possibly the > Force 200 form factor and will be un-capped for $299.00 > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > We’ll see if Matt or Aaron jumps in, but I suspect the answer is yes and > no. The 450D definitely knows it’s an integrated antenna, the external > gain field is locked, but likely that’s just something programmed into NV > storage. For more CPU horsepower, I suspect you want the 450i SM which > AFAIK still comes only in connectorized and integrated panel versions and > costs $$$. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 9:49 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector > > > > Does the 450D have the exact same internal PCB board has original 450SM's? > Reason I am asking is does the 45D have capability of getting more > throughput to each individual SM vs the original 450 which capped out at > about 70mbps. I am wondering because with the extra wide channels coming > with 450 (40mhz) can we expect more speed to the clients? > > > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote: > > Old thread but do you see 3db more signal with them vs a standard sm with > reflector? > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband < > [email protected]> wrote: > > We use them a lot. Most installs. > > Adam > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:13 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector > > > > Personally I like them. Reflectors and the classic Canopy case SM’s are > certainly more popular though. > > > > There are a number of WISP’s that buy them though. I think the 4 pack and > only 20Mbps/Unlimited keys turns some people off. > > > > Daniel White > > Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales > > ConVergence Technologies > > Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > [email protected] > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *timothy steele > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:06 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector > > > > Looks like power and gain are the same but the 450d has more of a narrow > antenna pattern then using a dish so I would expect to see better results > don't have 1 to try though.. > > > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 5:55 PM Jon Langeler <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Someone bought one that's not government? > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Has anyone compared a PMP450d to a PMP450 5ghz SM with reflector? 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