Well, the mayor and city council said it didn’t work so well.   This was 4 
years ago or so.  I was there multiple times by invitation.  

From: Roger Timmerman 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:29 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

Not sure why anyone would say the UTOPIA/Brigham City project didn't work.  
~25% of the city pre-committed for services which was enough to back a bond to 
fund the whole city's fiber build.  Since then subscriber-ship has continued to 
increase, is now at about 33% across the entire city, and generates net 
positive cash flow.  It's a great model and I would expect we will see much 
more of it (albeit without the liens the city used alleviate their risk).  
Despite occasional complaints, a third party net promoter survey last March 
gave UTOPIA a 57 net promoter score, which is almost unbelievably high in the 
ISP industry.  I'm not sure what you're comparing us to, but that seems like 
very successful project to me. 

Roger

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> 
wrote:

  I like the idea of the bond, but I don’t like the idea of a split 
responsibility/ISP where one entity owns the fiber and others bill and provide 
service over it.





  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
  Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:32 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber



  Seems like a race to the bottom on pricing. I'm sure spammers and DCMA 
violators will love it!



  On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

    Utopia tried that method in Brigham City and it didn't work so well (for a 
variety of reasons).

    -----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson
    Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:35 AM


    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

    Hi,

    This is a small "town" that is directly connected to my hometown of
    Idaho Falls. The road I drive to work on, the west side of that street
    is Idaho Falls, the east side is Ammon. We had a lot of wireless
    customers in the Ammon area when I was a WISP. They have been working on
    this fiber project for almost 10 years.

    It's a very interesting way to do it. They have bundled the $3,000
    installation into a low interest "bond" kind of thing that is attached
    to the property... so that's about $15/month for 20 years. Then they
    have a small transport/utility fee for the fiber itself of $16.50/month.

    The most amazing part is the user can switch between providers from a
    website, picking the speed and service that they want, and it changes
    their service immediately. It will be interesting to see how this goes.
    They are supposed to have their first residential customer live by the
    end of this year.

    They are saying 100Mbps x 100Mbps service would be about $60-$70 per
    month total (with $0 installation cost).

    
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/what-if-switching-fiber-isps-was-as-easy-as-clicking-a-mouse/

    Travis



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