It sounds like that $20 you bring in is yours for support and upstream, the 
rest is between the city and the customer. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:47:41 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber 


Can a WISP like us even compete in the city of Ammon? I assume that this fiber 
all goes to some sort of Central Office building and any carrier that wants to 
come into town can then run a line into this building and sell on the FTTH 
plant. So in reality the only providers that can compete is whoever owns the 
long-haul fiber coming into this town. And selling service in the $20/month 
price bracket to the customer and then having to turn around and pay the city 
of Ammon on top of that sounds like you'd be lucky to make a couple dollars per 
customer at all. 


On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 5:05 AM, < [email protected] > wrote: 


Rob Genovesi wrote: 
> I despise over regulation but it could create a large enough barrier 
> to entry that only serious operators would enter the market and that 
> might prevent race to the bottom, at least for a little while. 
How do you define a serious operator and who gets to set the rules? 

I'd much rather have low barriers to entry and any downside that it brings. 
Generally speaking we need more competition, not less. 

A far larger long term threat than bottom of the barrel operators is market 
consolidation, due to the fact that the ISP business is very much a volume 
business where the winner can just outscale smaller players. 


> >> I'm sure spammers and DCMA violators will love it! 
> > 
> > How do you figure the above applies? 
> 
> That seems pretty obvious, DCMA violators will just keep jumping to 
> the next service provider any time their current provider is forced to 
> turn them off. 
That assumes there is an infinite supply of ISPs to chose from, which there 
clearly isn't. In other words, this is not a viable long term strategy, and 
most people are smart enough to figure that out and don't go down that road. 
Much easier to just use a VPN service than jumping ship every time you get a 
DMCA complaint. 

Jared 




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