VOIP. VOIP hates NAT.
On Nov 14, 2016 7:36 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> wrote: > IPv6 is a necessity in so many ways I can't wait to see it adopted > widespread. There are so many limitations to IPv4 with NAT. The BIGGEST > thing I see is the gamers with the PS4's and it gets very beneficial if you > have multiple PS4's in the same house. Apparently when Sony designed the > games for UPnP they never anticipated that there would be multiple PS4 > consoles behind a single public IPv4 address and so I guess you can't have > two consoles playing the exact same game because the consoles fight for the > same exact port ranges and the NAT router doesn't know which console on the > internal LAN to forward the traffic too. Its a common problem apparently > that Sony has acknowledged and basically said there will be no fix. But > IPV6 wouldn't have had this problem in the first place. > > http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Network-Support/ > MULTIPLE-PLAYSTATION-4-s-ONE-NETWORK-NEEDS-FIXED-ASAP- > Confirmed/td-p/44774137 > > > > On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Paul Stewart <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Yeah … that was an insane chunk of change - the MS purchase of Nortel >> blocks…. >> >> JJ and team at Comcast did a stand up job with IPv6 enablement, promotion >> of it etc… >> >> On Nov 13, 2016, at 5:47 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> *nods* MS spent how much to get Nortel's blocks? >> >> Comcast is completely dual stacked... as they manage their modems >> through IPv6, not IPv4. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Sunday, November 13, 2016 4:45:33 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? >> >> Yup .. back in time the major ISP’s were saying “there’s no content on >> IPv6” … so the content guys responded and through IPv6 day and other >> initiatives answered back. That was several years ago and there has been >> some progress but still lots of small and large players who are slow to get >> moving … I feel this pain in $$job where only DSL is dual stack (and >> recently wireless) but cable modem for example is not ready and it’s going >> to be a while … >> >> The content guys care just as much about IPv6 - they consume massive >> amount of IPv4 address blocks, especially with even increasing SSL content >> ….. >> >> >> On Nov 13, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Many content providers that aren't on Amazon are already completely IPv6, >> with some dual-stacked elements. ;-) >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *[email protected] >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Sunday, November 13, 2016 4:28:57 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? >> >> Content providers like Netflix, Facebook, etc. don't really have any >> reason to go IPv6 only. Best they can do is start offering IPv6 access >> also, on top of IPv4. >> >> Many content providers don't care. The pain is felt purely on the ISP >> side. The best we can hope for is that enough ISPs deploy IPv6 (only), so >> that most content providers can't continue to totally ignore IPv6 in the >> long term. >> >> Not that IPv6 support is always sunshine and roses, as can be seen by >> Netflix blocking IPv6 tunnels. >> >> Jared >> >> >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM >> From: "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? >> >> I’m thinking 5 years or less… what it’ll take to start pushing this >> heavily is for someone like Netflix, Facebook etc to go IPv6 only…. great >> theory that probably won’t happen unfortunately …. >> >> >> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected][mailto:chuck@ >> wbmfg.com <[email protected]>]> wrote: >> >> That day will come, but I think it is 5 years in the future or more. >> >> >> >> From: Cassidy B. Larson >> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:16 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? >> >> Wonder if I could offer an “IPv6-Only” type of account at a discounted >> rate. >> They'd get their Netflix, their Facebook and everything else that’s v6 >> reachable. >> If they can’t get to a v4 only site/service, then they can be the vocal >> ones complaining to the site owners to get their act in gear. >> >> >> >> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> Except that you literally cannot ‘move to IPv6’ and have happy clients >> yet. >> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] On Behalf >> Of Kurt Fankhauser >> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:17 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? >> >> >> Wow, didn't know that /24's were going for that high. I would move to >> IPv6 as fast as I can! >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> That's actually a pretty good price. >> >> >> >> On Nov 11, 2016 6:42 PM, "Dev" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Are there any other alternatives than the ipv4auctions.com[http://ip >> v4auctions.com/] style websites, which seem like highway robbery at >> $3584 current bid for a /24? >> >> >> >
