If only Sony supported IPv6...
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 7:36:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? IPv6 is a necessity in so many ways I can't wait to see it adopted widespread. There are so many limitations to IPv4 with NAT. The BIGGEST thing I see is the gamers with the PS4's and it gets very beneficial if you have multiple PS4's in the same house. Apparently when Sony designed the games for UPnP they never anticipated that there would be multiple PS4 consoles behind a single public IPv4 address and so I guess you can't have two consoles playing the exact same game because the consoles fight for the same exact port ranges and the NAT router doesn't know which console on the internal LAN to forward the traffic too. Its a common problem apparently that Sony has acknowledged and basically said there will be no fix. But IPV6 wouldn't have had this problem in the first place. http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Network-Support/MULTIPLE-PLAYSTATION-4-s-ONE-NETWORK-NEEDS-FIXED-ASAP-Confirmed/td-p/44774137 On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Paul Stewart < [email protected] > wrote: Yeah … that was an insane chunk of change - the MS purchase of Nortel blocks…. JJ and team at Comcast did a stand up job with IPv6 enablement, promotion of it etc… <blockquote> On Nov 13, 2016, at 5:47 PM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: *nods* MS spent how much to get Nortel's blocks? Comcast is completely dual stacked... as they manage their modems through IPv6, not IPv4. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Paul Stewart" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 4:45:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? Yup .. back in time the major ISP’s were saying “there’s no content on IPv6” … so the content guys responded and through IPv6 day and other initiatives answered back. That was several years ago and there has been some progress but still lots of small and large players who are slow to get moving … I feel this pain in $$job where only DSL is dual stack (and recently wireless) but cable modem for example is not ready and it’s going to be a while … The content guys care just as much about IPv6 - they consume massive amount of IPv4 address blocks, especially with even increasing SSL content ….. <blockquote> On Nov 13, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: Many content providers that aren't on Amazon are already completely IPv6, with some dual-stacked elements. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 4:28:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? Content providers like Netflix, Facebook, etc. don't really have any reason to go IPv6 only. Best they can do is start offering IPv6 access also, on top of IPv4. Many content providers don't care. The pain is felt purely on the ISP side. The best we can hope for is that enough ISPs deploy IPv6 (only), so that most content providers can't continue to totally ignore IPv6 in the long term. Not that IPv6 support is always sunshine and roses, as can be seen by Netflix blocking IPv6 tunnels. Jared Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM From: "Paul Stewart" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? I’m thinking 5 years or less… what it’ll take to start pushing this heavily is for someone like Netflix, Facebook etc to go IPv6 only…. great theory that probably won’t happen unfortunately …. On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Chuck McCown < [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected] ]> wrote: That day will come, but I think it is 5 years in the future or more. From: Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? Wonder if I could offer an “IPv6-Only” type of account at a discounted rate. They'd get their Netflix, their Facebook and everything else that’s v6 reachable. If they can’t get to a v4 only site/service, then they can be the vocal ones complaining to the site owners to get their act in gear. On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Sterling Jacobson < [email protected] > wrote: Except that you literally cannot ‘move to IPv6’ and have happy clients yet. From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? Wow, didn't know that /24's were going for that high. I would move to IPv6 as fast as I can! On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > wrote: That's actually a pretty good price. On Nov 11, 2016 6:42 PM, "Dev" < [email protected] > wrote: Are there any other alternatives than the ipv4auctions.com [ http://ipv4auctions.com/ ] style websites, which seem like highway robbery at $3584 current bid for a /24? </blockquote> </blockquote>
