Way beyond what I would be comfortable with.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/15/2016 7:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
300V nominally but you can get 600V cable. And since those insulation ratings are derated, pretty sure you can double them before sparks start flying.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:56 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

What's the breakdown voltage on the insulation for a 22 AWG wire?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/15/2016 6:54 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Perhaps jack it up to 1000 volts, 12 amps...
Run your whole house off of a cat 5.
Now that would be an interesting youtube video.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:51 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

Using that kind of power scheme, and 48 volts, you're talking about over 500 watts? No way!

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/15/2016 6:26 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Tower ground earth ground etc, like Trango does.
Yes, I do, the manufacturer of the jacks I use rates them at 1.5 amps.
But you better not plug them in under load...
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:22 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

All one polarity? Where's the drain? You really think you can get 1-1/2 amps through each of those teeny little RJ45 connections?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/15/2016 6:14 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I am talking about all wires being one polarity. I think I can get 12 amps without melting anything.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2016 5:41 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

Let me be more clear.

The circuit that is pins 4,5 (+), and pins 7,8 (-) is one circuit. Total of .75 amps.

The circuit that is pins 1,2 (-), and pins 3,6 (+) is one circuit. Total of .75 amps.

That puts 375 milliamps on each pin and each wire. That's because the power/current that is going in on pins 7 & 8, has to return on pins 4 & 5. You can't double that.

Possibly more than I would be comfortable with anyway.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/14/2016 12:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Half an amp per wire on one chart, 3.5 amps on another chart. Heating and insulation temperature rating are going to be the limiting factors there.
Jacks I use have a 1.5 amp rating per pin.
So, I think you can get 12 amps total if the cable is short enough.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2016 1:11 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

Each pair is one half of a power circuit. So there are 4 halves. There are two issues; how much current can each wire carry, and how much current can each connector pin can carry.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/14/2016 11:59 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
There are four pairs. AF5x and the H in 24vh or 48vh POE ports of Netonix do power over all four pairs. Speaking with Ubnt support last week, AF5x should ideally do four pairs when possible.
48v (0.75*4a) = 144 watts
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On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

    At 48 volts, and .75 amps per pair of power wires, that would
    be 36 watts + 36 watts, or 72 watts total?

    Just noodling here.

    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 11/14/2016 11:38 AM, George Skorup wrote:
    For the record,
    http://store.packetflux.com/powerinjector-plus-sync-gigabit-version/
    <http://store.packetflux.com/powerinjector-plus-sync-gigabit-version/>
    says: 1A per port maximum power.  (48 watts at 48 Volts)

    So.. is the electronic over-current protection the 1A limit?
    Or is this just outdated info? Pretty sure it's >1A because
    I've "tested" it (cable leaking water into the GigE-APC, the
    port didn't trip, and the card was hot as hell).

    I was also unaware that Cambium won't be supporting
    sync-over-power on the 450m. I imagine the ringing/bounce
    issue killed that idea due to the high power consumption.

    On 11/14/2016 1:00 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

    The current products should power the 450M just fine.  The
    rating is 1A per pair per port, so at the 48V you're good
    up to 96W.

    On Nov 14, 2016 7:50 PM, "George Skorup"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        The 450m pulls 70 watts. The current
        SyncInjector/PowerInjector+Sync is around 1A max per
        port. What you could do for now is a GigE-POE-APC and
        the new aux port version SyncBox Junior.


        On 11/14/2016 12:34 PM, Matt wrote:

            Shouldn't the sync over power for the 450M be the
            same as PMP450i?

            How is the 1u sync injector coming?


            On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Forrest Christian
            (List Account)
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                All of the currently shipping syncbox product
                line are compatible. For sync
                over power, I have the specs, but the design
                isn't done yet.


                On Nov 14, 2016 5:40 PM, "Sam Lambie"
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                    A question for Forrest mostly. Have you
                    come up with a timing product for
                    the 450m AP yet? If not, have you got a
                    timeline for release?

                    Sam

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