Yep, 1.25” ID is the most common followed by 2” ID
HDPE

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:08 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Cost

When you say duct you mean this orange conduit, right? 

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On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  I would never do direct again.  Gopher damage.  Doesn’t happen with duct.  
  Plus with duct you can cut and pull out and go over and under anytime you 
want.  Saves in splicing and figure 8 ing etc.
  Duct is worth the extra expense.  And it is not really that expensive.  

  From: Mark Radabaugh 
  Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:14 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Cost

  Duct or direct plow makes a difference.   Direct is cheaper but damage is 
much harder, takes longer to repair, and increases your maintenance cost over 
time.  With direct bury you have no ability to pull slack or add new handholes 
for access.  In the event of a fiber cut without duct the repair usually 
involves exposing 100’ of cable on either side of the damage and splicing in a 
new section of cable which will require double the number of splices and splice 
cases versus duct where you can pull spare cable in.

  Mark

    On Nov 17, 2016, at 8:03 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> wrote:

    All ROW are already in place.  Few road crossings in rural areas but in 
cities close to standard numbers of road crossings. 



    On Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 6:53 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

      Just don't forget that there will be costs not related to construction 
both before and after.

      Some of them are onetime costs, not related to mileage like planning, 
permits and the like. This is one reason costs are all over the map, because it 
depends on how many miles you can spread fixed prebuild costs.

      Others are ongoing costs which will keep eating at you, even after you 
finish construction. Various reporting requirements and paperwork, locates, 
repairs, maintenance, etc. Even when you have a brand new plant you have to 
budget for OPEX.

      Jared


      > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 2:27 PM
      > From: "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected]>
      > To: [email protected]
      > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Cost
      >

      > All over the place.   10k to 200k depending location.     Rural direct 
plowed in good soil with no duct and nothing in the way?   12k is about as low 
as I have seen quoted.    Road crossings, boring, rock, urban, rail crossings, 
pipeline crossings will all add to that number.
      >
      > Mark
      >
      >
      > > On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> 
wrote:
      > >
      > > I know we have discussed this before but I wanted a current cost for 
backhaul fiber per mile in the ground.
      >
      >


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