We have Bubbas... They cut fiber with tractor.... Happened several times to TWC and Espire in two years
On Nov 17, 2016 12:29 PM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think I have gophers either. > Woodchucks, rats, field mice, rabbits, voles, moles...burrowing rodents > come in many flavors. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: 11/17/2016 1:19:24 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Cost > > > If you have gophers and duct prevents that I suppose that's worth the > cost. > > We do not have gophers in Michigan. We put everything direct buried in > rural areas. In some cases we may plow in 12ct cable down a mile of road > with only a few obstacles that need to be bored. That's about $1000 of > cable. A mile of innerduct is about $2000 in material and is a big product > to plow if you're plowing, or has to be drilled in (more expensive). > > In town we run duct, mainly because there are enough obstacles that we > have to drill it all anyway. There are certainly benefits to duct, but it > adds a lot of cost when you're looking at a rural area with maybe 10 houses > per mile. Just my opinion, worth what you paid for it! > > Chris Fabien > LakeNet LLC > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I would never do direct again. Gopher damage. Doesn’t happen with >> duct. >> Plus with duct you can cut and pull out and go over and under anytime you >> want. Saves in splicing and figure 8 ing etc. >> Duct is worth the extra expense. And it is not really that expensive. >> >> *From:* Mark Radabaugh >> *Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:14 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Cost >> >> Duct or direct plow makes a difference. Direct is cheaper but damage is >> much harder, takes longer to repair, and increases your maintenance cost >> over time. With direct bury you have no ability to pull slack or add new >> handholes for access. In the event of a fiber cut without duct the repair >> usually involves exposing 100’ of cable on either side of the damage and >> splicing in a new section of cable which will require double the number of >> splices and splice cases versus duct where you can pull spare cable in. >> >> Mark >> >> >> On Nov 17, 2016, at 8:03 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> All ROW are already in place. Few road crossings in rural areas but in >> cities close to standard numbers of road crossings. >> >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 6:53 AM <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Just don't forget that there will be costs not related to construction >>> both before and after. >>> >>> Some of them are onetime costs, not related to mileage like planning, >>> permits and the like. This is one reason costs are all over the map, >>> because it depends on how many miles you can spread fixed prebuild costs. >>> >>> Others are ongoing costs which will keep eating at you, even after you >>> finish construction. Various reporting requirements and paperwork, locates, >>> repairs, maintenance, etc. Even when you have a brand new plant you have to >>> budget for OPEX. >>> >>> Jared >>> >>> >>> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 2:27 PM >>> > From: "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected]> >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Cost >>> > >>> > All over the place. 10k to 200k depending location. Rural direct >>> plowed in good soil with no duct and nothing in the way? 12k is about as >>> low as I have seen quoted. Road crossings, boring, rock, urban, rail >>> crossings, pipeline crossings will all add to that number. >>> > >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > >>> > > On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > I know we have discussed this before but I wanted a current cost for >>> backhaul fiber per mile in the ground. >>> > >>> > >>> >> >> > >
