I meant everyone in the licensed market other than Mimosa.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:48:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? Mike, when you say out of touch with the rest of the market, doesn’t that depend on how you define rest of the market? Or competition, as Ben puts it. It means one thing if you define the competition as Mimosa B11, another if you define it as Ceragon and SIAE. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? I am sure I am going to regret posting to one of Mike H's endless ramblings about UBNT...but I am going to bite ;) Just because we don't listen to everything you say Mike, doesn't mean we do not listen to our customers. It is easy to sit back and "cast stones" from where you sit. All decisions we make are with customers in mind. Would be silly not to. Are they perfect for every customer? Of course not...Do they try to take in most all customers and tailor to our many markets? Yes... Have we made mistakes or should we have changed things or implemented certain things differently...YES. I would be more upset if we had sat back and just left status quo. We are investing significantly into the market...and have invested millions and millions into new PTMP platforms...With ~40 million radios in customers hands, we had to listen to a few things OK ;) I have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to knowing what competition is doing...Must have just sounded good when you wrote it ;) Our 24GHz PTP product is a leader in the market. Our AF-5x and AF-5 are similar. We expect our AF-11FX to do very well and feedback from users in the field and early orders look great. Anyway...I probably shouldn't have...but couldn't resist. Please do not take this as a post where we feel we are perfect, just had to chime in about us listening to customers. Have a great weekend all! Regards, Ben On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: Seeing what they put out, not having a clue what the competition is already doing and the ignoring of their customers and super users means they're out of touch. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Josh Reynolds" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 9:10:04 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? If they were really that out of touch given the context of the world market, they wouldn't have product lines doubling in net revenue quarter over quarter. On Nov 19, 2016 7:27 AM, "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Yeah, but they have a fundamental problem. Company-wide they are out of touch with their customers and what they need as well as what the rest of the market offers. Examples: Still no SFPs on radios. AF11 has a channel width from the 2000s. AF11 isn't nearly as spectrally efficient as they think it is. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Josh Reynolds" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:14:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? I know of a company that already has 8 links deployed that they replaced existing radios with. They built their own radio core. (Second time for UBNT, if you count Invictus core and then this one... Not counting the ones they made before UBNT.) You underestimate them a lot. They're making more money across the board and investing even more money in R&D and labor than they ever have. The past few years they've made major internal changes, and things are just now starting to bare fruit from those decisions. They also have a huge cash reserve, and it wouldn't surprise me at all for them to start making acquisitions if they choose to. On Nov 18, 2016 9:50 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> this isnt my usual asshole distrust of UBNT, I know UBNT chuck is behind it, so its solid gear, but are people really ready to put their faith in the limited and $ spectrum on UBNT? On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> They are designing for a lot of different mounting options, but they have to hit the ones that are the easiest sells out the gate. Stay tuned. On Nov 18, 2016 5:44 PM, "George Skorup" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> We have RadioWaves HP2 and HP3s' in a couple flavors. HPx-11R, Remec round for Trango ApexPlus and HPx-11EX, for Exalt G2. Then we have Trango AD11G2-S2's and 3-S2's for ApexPlus, Remec round. So obviously we wouldn't be able to do the feedhorn swap on those. The RadioWaves 11EX are single-pol only, so those would need the feedhorn swapped. But the 11R is where it makes sense for the Remec adapter plate, especially in the case of the Trango dishes. So for me it would come down to $250-300? for the adapter plate vs $400? for a new RW feedhorn vs $1k for a whole new dish. This would probably be half as difficult if UBNT would've designed for waveguide, IMO. On 11/18/2016 2:13 PM, Brad Belton wrote: <blockquote> Right, I see the RadioWaves DP N-Type feed, but we�re looking/hoping someone comes out with a REMEC round to DP N-Type adapter.� � Quicker, cheaper than replacing the feed horn and could be used on any antenna with a REMEC round feed horn�not just a RadioWaves antenna. � Brad � From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? � Non-UBNT licensed dish to N connectors and radio mount. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Brad Belton" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:06:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? So, what are we looking for?� SFP port? � I don�t see any REMEC round to dual polarity N-Type adapters in your pictures!� <grin> � Brad � From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? � https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/photos/a.997555730369879.1073741834.186874744771319/997557797036339/?type=3&theater ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Brad Belton" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:09:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? You'll need to order a new feed horn for your RadioWaves antenna. �I don't have the SKUs yet, but I'm hearing they might be shipping by end of the month or early next. �They are basically a standard dual polarity N-Type feed horn except the feed horn "kit" also comes with a UBNT specific mounting bracket for the radio. I wish there was a REMEC round to dual polarity N-Type adapter available. Sure would be easier than a feed horn swap...and likely less expensive too. I've got a call into Pasternack to see if such an adapter is even feasible. I'm thinking it is, but would depend on demand. Brad � -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? What was on the dish you had before? �Can I make these work on a a Radiowaves Dragonwave dish? On 11/17/2016 8:54 PM, Brad Belton wrote: > DoubleRadius should have them. �Our AF-11X order filled, but waiting on new > RadioWaves dual polarity feed horns before they can be put to use. > > Brad > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf > Of Keefe John > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > Which distributors will have AF-11X first? �Does anyone have ETAs? > > Keefe > > _______________________________________________ > Members mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members > > _______________________________________________ > Members mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members _______________________________________________ Members mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members _______________________________________________ Members mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members � _______________________________________________ Members mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members � _______________________________________________ Members mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members </blockquote> </blockquote> -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
