I'll lean on the ring skirt shouting insults at both while eating my Royale with Cheese.
On Nov 19, 2016 5:50 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote: > We can set up a cage match and call it a Battle Royale. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:48 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > > > I'm afraid that wouldn't go well for me. I've provided perhaps aggressive > feedback to too many vendors. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"George Skorup" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:39:01 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > Can I bring boxing gloves to the next show? :) > > On 11/19/2016 5:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > It's a sign of it being the cheapest radio on the market, not a sign of it > being what the customer really wanted. > > That or they don't realize it's shortcomings yet or they're not educated > enough to know the difference. I would say most of the UBNT operator > community isn't nearly as educated as they should be. > > > Again, because someone buys it doesn't mean it's what they wanted. Sales > are absolutely NOT an indicator of that. Sales are an indicator of what > they were willing to settle for. I'll probably settle for them and > contribute to the sales numbers being used against my argument. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ben Moore" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:16:34 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > I don't care if they are living on the North Pole in an igloo as long as > designing killer radios that customers are buying :). The fact that the > AF-11FX orders are so high is a good sign that customers want it and are > very comfortable with it after the success of the AF24 and AF5. > > Thanks, > > Ben > > > On Nov 19, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > > Them listening or not listening isn't the end-all be-all for purchase > decisions. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:05:09 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > You're right, people were so dumb they kept coming back. > > /s > > > > On Nov 19, 2016 3:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just because there are sales doesn't mean they listen. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:42:04 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > Keep in mind that AFMUG and even the WISPA list is an echo chamber. > > What one needs, another does not. There are some very vocal people in > these communities. > > That said, I have spent years talking directly with Matt, Ben, Robert and > many of the developers. They are often out of touch, but sometimes it's > actually myself that is. > > When you can post a 20-40mil gain in a single quarter time after time on a > given line without direct sales, you are doing something right. > > > > On Nov 19, 2016 11:27 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Seeing what they put out, not having a clue what the competition is > already doing and the ignoring of their customers and super users means > they're out of touch. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Saturday, November 19, 2016 9:10:04 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > If they were really that out of touch given the context of the world > market, they wouldn't have product lines doubling in net revenue quarter > over quarter. > > > > On Nov 19, 2016 7:27 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, but they have a fundamental problem. Company-wide they are out of > touch with their customers and what they need as well as what the rest of > the market offers. > > Examples: > > Still no SFPs on radios. > AF11 has a channel width from the 2000s. > AF11 isn't nearly as spectrally efficient as they think it is. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Friday, November 18, 2016 10:14:45 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > I know of a company that already has 8 links deployed that they replaced > existing radios with. > > They built their own radio core. (Second time for UBNT, if you count > Invictus core and then this one... Not counting the ones they made before > UBNT.) > > You underestimate them a lot. They're making more money across the board > and investing even more money in R&D and labor than they ever have. The > past few years they've made major internal changes, and things are just now > starting to bare fruit from those decisions. > > They also have a huge cash reserve, and it wouldn't surprise me at all for > them to start making acquisitions if they choose to. > > > > On Nov 18, 2016 9:50 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > [email protected]> wrote: > > this isnt my usual asshole distrust of UBNT, I know UBNT chuck is behind > it, so its solid gear, but are people really ready to put their faith in > the limited and $ spectrum on UBNT? > > > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> > wrote: > > They are designing for a lot of different mounting options, but they have > to hit the ones that are the easiest sells out the gate. > > Stay tuned. > > > > On Nov 18, 2016 5:44 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote: > > We have RadioWaves HP2 and HP3s' in a couple flavors. HPx-11R, Remec round > for Trango ApexPlus and HPx-11EX, for Exalt G2. Then we have Trango > AD11G2-S2's and 3-S2's for ApexPlus, Remec round. So obviously we wouldn't > be able to do the feedhorn swap on those. > > The RadioWaves 11EX are single-pol only, so those would need the feedhorn > swapped. But the 11R is where it makes sense for the Remec adapter plate, > especially in the case of the Trango dishes. > > So for me it would come down to $250-300? for the adapter plate vs $400? > for a new RW feedhorn vs $1k for a whole new dish. > > This would probably be half as difficult if UBNT would've designed for > waveguide, IMO. > > On 11/18/2016 2:13 PM, Brad Belton wrote: > > Right, I see the RadioWaves DP N-Type feed, but we�re looking/hoping > someone comes out with a REMEC round to DP N-Type adapter.� > > � > > Quicker, cheaper than replacing the feed horn and could be used on any > antenna with a REMEC round feed horn�not just a RadioWaves antenna. > > � > > Brad > > � > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 2:08 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > � > > Non-UBNT licensed dish to N connectors and radio mount. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Brad Belton" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Friday, November 18, 2016 2:06:47 PM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > So, what are we looking for?� SFP port? > > � > > I don�t see any REMEC round to dual polarity N-Type adapters in your > pictures!� <grin> > > � > > Brad > > � > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 2:02 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > � > > https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/photos/a. > 997555730369879.1073741834.186874744771319/997557797036339/?type=3&theater > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Brad Belton" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Friday, November 18, 2016 10:09:25 AM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > You'll need to order a new feed horn for your RadioWaves antenna. �I > don't > have the SKUs yet, but I'm hearing they might be shipping by end of the > month or early next. �They are basically a standard dual polarity N-Type > feed horn except the feed horn "kit" also comes with a UBNT specific > mounting bracket for the radio. > > I wish there was a REMEC round to dual polarity N-Type adapter available. > Sure would be easier than a feed horn swap...and likely less expensive too. > I've got a call into Pasternack to see if such an adapter is even feasible. > I'm thinking it is, but would depend on demand. > > Brad > > � > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] On Behalf > Of Keefe John > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:59 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > What was on the dish you had before? �Can I make these work on a a > Radiowaves Dragonwave dish? > > > On 11/17/2016 8:54 PM, Brad Belton wrote: > > DoubleRadius should have them. �Our AF-11X order filled, but waiting on > new > > RadioWaves dual polarity feed horns before they can be put to use. > > > > Brad > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] On > Behalf > > Of Keefe John > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:17 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > > > Which distributors will have AF-11X first? �Does anyone have ETAs? > > > > Keefe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Members mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Members mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members > > _______________________________________________ > Members mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members > > _______________________________________________ > Members mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members > > � > > > _______________________________________________ > Members mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members > > � > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Members mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members > > > > > > > > -- > > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
