I think it may make sense for more people than you think once it's announced. It's not all finalized yet, but there are some significant advantages to this model that I think will be very interesting to ISPs in general.

On 11/23/2016 1:41 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
Oh really … that’s interesting. For us it wouldn’t make sense but for a lot of WISP’s it would actually make complete sense….

thanks for that clarification …

On Nov 23, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Simon Westlake <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

They actually do have a per-subscriber model now with their virtualized product. I'm working with Procera on some configurations for this for the WISP market right. Feel free to reach out to me directly if anyone is interested in learning more.

On 11/23/2016 12:52 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
Procera isn’t licensed per user .. it’s licensed based on throughput and features


On Nov 23, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

OK, I think Procera and Sandvine both have a per user cost (maybe a couple dollars per user) and Procera has a cost for purchasing upfront. My box which can do a gig of traffic cost $18,000 with the first year of signature updates and it is like $2500 annually after that.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Wireless Administrator <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Kurt,

    We use PPPoE/Radius to set basic Queues on the Access Servers
    but want to do shaping at an application level.  Ntop reports
    are showing an increasing number of things getting out of
    control.  Windows updates %#@?! for one.


    Steve


    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
    *Sent:* Wednesday, November 23, 2016 1:44 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Traffic Shaping Appliance


    Are you are just looking to shape general traffic to a client
    (like give someone a 1.5Mbps plan) then you could use Mikrotik
    and simple queues which is very in-expensive. If you want to do
    some shaping on an application like only streaming or Windows
    Updates and stuff like that then that's where things start to
    get expensive. I am using the Procera myself for that and
    although I havn't tried any of the other brands you mention I
    am very happy with the Procera.


    On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Wireless Administrator
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    We’re in the market for a traffic shaping appliance and have
    had a look at Procera so far.  I have a list of
    vendors/products a have assembled over time that I was going to
    look into:


    Saisei

    NetEqualizer

    /Packeteer (Bluecoat)/

    /NetEnforcer (Allot)/

    /Network Composer (Cymphonix)/

    /Exinda/

    //

    /Anyone care to share experiences on this subject?/

    //

    /Steve B./






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Email: [email protected]
Phone: (702) 447-1247
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The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

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