no, chuck, drain cleaner and foil is something you put in pop bottles
and throw
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:32 AM, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Quick way to make hydrogen is to put some foil in a water solution
of sodium hydroxide (lye) drain cleaner. Cheap, easy, makes lots
of gas, fizzes and gets hot too.
*From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
*Sent:* Sunday, December 4, 2016 8:12 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen
In Jr high I needed hydrogen for a plant experiment I was doing,
the electrolysis method was too slow so I used zinc oxide from non
alkaline AA batteries. Is zinc still a thing in battery
production? That could be a good secondary market for battery
recyclers. I used hydrocloric acid because i had it, but sulfuric
would have been more efficient, so the sla recycling could be
combined with the other battery recycling to generate hydrogen. my
method created a shit ton of toxic byproduct I had to disappear,
but i assume that could be addressed at scale
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 9:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
<[email protected]> wrote:
Interesting perspective
I can see the cord cutting component of consumer demand
putting it on the purchased service from a provider, but I
just cant wrap my head around government rebates on "green"
tech being a component of pure capitalism since it demands
that unwilling participants kick into the kitty for
individuals to gain benefits, that sounds more socialist, even
if it only benefits those wealthy enough to buy green tech
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Josh Reynolds
<[email protected]> wrote:
"just like cord cutting, and all the newest bestest
greenest, efficientest, its always on somebody elses back"
- capitalism
Although you could replace from cord cutting to
efficientest with "everything" and it would be "samesies"
On Dec 4, 2016 5:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
<[email protected]> wrote:
capitalism has no mandate to offset others costs
through forcible taxation that im aware. unless we are
talking about the exchange of responsibilities via
voluntary taxation of mileage in exchange for access
to group resources like federal taxes. still not sure
id call that strict capitalism
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Josh Reynolds
<[email protected]> wrote:
You realize what you just described in the
strictest sense is called capitalism, right?
On Dec 4, 2016 3:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
<[email protected]> wrote:
just like cord cutting, and all the newest
bestest greenest, efficientest, its always on
somebody elses back. if its regulation you
want, its regulation you get...to get any,
even a single penny, subsidy for "green tech,
youre required to come to the dmv twice a yer
for an odometer reading and tax form for you
to pay your taxes. your vehicle has a huge
environmental liability with the batteries
(this should make the climate changers cream)
so if you dont register a sale of the electric
car, and dont get your odometer read, then you
just get an annual tax bill for 250,000 miles
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Brian Webster
<[email protected]> wrote:
Imagine the motorhome also having a solar
powered hydrogen fuel cell to either make
the hydrogen or have enough power to
recharge the batteries. Depending on how
far you can go just on batteries and how
long it takes to recharge on solar, you
could pace your travels to be darn near
free driving.
The one thing that governments are
starting to struggle with now is the road
taxes that are technically owed. Right now
they collect it as the gas/fuel pump for
every gallon of fuel you purchase. I know
in NY state technically if you own an
electric car you are supposed to calculate
your mileage driven on electric and then
enter that on your tax return to calculate
how much you owe in road taxes that you
did not pay at a gas pump. I am sure that
is honestly reported by citizens just like
they are supposed to report all of their
on line purchases that did not have NY
state sales taxes collected.......
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
<http://www.wirelessmapping.com/>
www.Broadband-Mapping.com
<http://www.broadband-mapping.com/>
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile
range truck - hydrogen
This is what I want for a motor home,
along with autopilot a la tesla...
The easiest way to see north america as
possible...
On 12/02/2016 03:35 PM, George Skorup wrote:
> I would really like to see passenger
vehicles and small trucks go
> hybrid hydrogen/electric. Even better
would be an any-fuel hybrid electric.
> Hydrogen, propane or NG and a regular
gas tank for reserve. Either
> that, or a gas turbine like an M1 Abrams
that can burn anything, but
> it would obviously need to get better
fuel economy than 5 gallons per mile.
>
> On 12/2/2016 4:49 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> Nikola Motor Company reveals hydrogen
fuel cell truck with range of
>> 1,200 miles -
>>
http://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2016/12/nikola-hydrogen-fuel-cell-truck
<http://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2016/12/nikola-hydrogen-fuel-cell-truck>
>> /
>>
>
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