Launches Tits Up?

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:32 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?

Lick the Tears of Unicorns

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:

  Actually I believe it was to confuse LTE-U with LTU

  LTE –U stands for Long Term Evolution – Unlicensed, what LTU stands for? 

  From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
  Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
  Date: Friday, December 9, 2016 at 8:55 AM
  To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?


  The confusion between LTE and LTU has to be intentional on UBNT's side. If 
not to ride on something else's coattails, why would you use a very similar 
acronym?




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  Midwest Internet Exchange

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  From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 10:40:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?


  I think mixing LTE with what UBNT is doing would be a mistake. Were you under 
the impression they were doing an LTE variant?

  On Dec 8, 2016 10:35 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> wrote:

    It is common with LTE. UBNT calls it LTU so may be they look what others do 
at the RF layer. 





    Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Jon Langeler
    Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2016 16:45
    An: [email protected]
    Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?



    It's not common. But you wouldn't need sync. You would need channel spacing 
and such.

    Jon Langeler

    Michwave Technologies, Inc.




    On Dec 8, 2016, at 10:36 AM, castarritt . <[email protected]> wrote:

      Why would you want to run FDD for PTMP?  Wouldn't that prevent using sync 
for frequency re-use?



      On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Stefan Englhardt <[email protected]> wrote:

        If the announced stuff happens (I am not sure with this as UBNT failed 
to deliver all promises as does several other manufacterers in the present and 
past) it will be different than 450m.



        What is most interesting to me that they claim it to work TDD or FDD. 
Then it will be the first affordable FDD PTMP Platform. This is nothing 450 can 
do. If Ubnt will do massive mimo is questionable. They talked „advanced mimo 
patterns“ but who knows.



        I have learned to see and use what is buyable. Vendor promises are 
„might happen“. Seen this with cambium, mikrotik, ubnt, mimosa, mercurynets, …







        Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett
        Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2016 13:04
        An: [email protected]
        Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?



        LTU should be a PMP-like platform at a lower cost. It should check lots 
of boxes. It won't be a 450m, though.



        -----
        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions

        Midwest Internet Exchange

        The Brothers WISP






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        From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <[email protected]>
        To: "af" <[email protected]>
        Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 10:46:10 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?

        Elevate, as far as I can tell, is designed to provide a non-forklift 
migration path to ePMP.   I don't see either Elevate or ePMP playing to the 
same market is the AirFiber LTU or the 450-derived platforms (including Medusa).



        My best guess from everything I've read and heard is that the AirFiber 
LTU is going to live in the spot between the ePMP/802.11 derived radios and the 
450m, both in price and performance. 



        Put differently: 802.11<ePMP<AirFiber LTU<450i<450m.   (Or maybe switch 
450i and Airfiber LTU, or change < to =)



        -forrest







        On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 7:55 PM, Timothy Steele 
<[email protected]> wrote:

          It's called Airfiber LTU the AP will have a SFP port they designed 
all the Chips ground up for WISP's only
          And working sync obviously from the Motorola guys the win cambium is 
having with epmp elevate is going to be very short lived tables about to turn 
on cambium in a big way and I think that's why they are taking a huge risk of 
getting into legal trouble from UBNT  but I don't think Robert cares as he 
already knows he won the end game



          On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, 8:49 PM Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            Sorta did in Vegas, but didn't really change the stock with that 
news.  Not that coming out with the product would really do that.



            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
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            Troy, OH 45373

            On Dec 7, 2016 5:52 PM, "Carl Peterson" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              Announcement of AF PTMP??







              On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                Ubnt is at an all time high.  Last peak was March 2014.  Just 
over 5 years old, pretty cool to watch it go up and down.






                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340
                Direct: 937-552-2343
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373



                On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  Lol



                  On Dec 7, 2016 3:19 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                    Are they publically traded?  4th quarter sales bookings but 
not shipping?



                    From: That One Guy /sarcasm 

                    Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 2:17 PM

                    To:[email protected] 

                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?



                    They had a banner 2016, they pissed in robert peras 
Christmas porridge, maybe theyre pushing out that shine for 2017

                    On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Daniel White 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                      Very very few have shipped from Cambium.  Expect to hear 
a lot more this month.



                      Daniel White

                      Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

                      ConVergence Technologies

                      Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

                      [email protected]



                      From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gino 
Villarini
                      Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 12:37 PM
                      To:[email protected]
                      Subject: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?



                      So, more then a month out and no 450M operator with 
raving reviews? Is this a dud? 



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