Me too.  My tanks gas been great and cheap to run. Mine is natural  gas as
is my clothes dryer, heater, and stove top. My gas bill averages $25 a
month on average billing.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, 7:11 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> I  have been tankless for almost 20 years.  Love them.
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:07 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation
>
> If you can afford all the latest home automation tech, you probably also
> have European style point-of-use tankless water heaters.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 8, 2017 7:04 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation
>
>
>
>
>
> You know, I came across one of those on the Alabama Gulf Coast last time I
> vacationed down there -
>
>
>
> * it turned off the hot water when no one was there (but broke - and did
> NOT turn the hot water back on!)
>
> * it sensed when a door was open and disabled the air conditioner.  Well
> that is just ridiculous!!
>
> I go to the beach to hear the ocean....I want to hear the surf....and not
> sweat while I do it!
>
>
>
> Perhaps I should have tinkered with it....(it was October so it wound up
> not being too hot) :)
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Paul Stewart
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 8, 2017 6:55 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation
>
>
>
> Hehe… there are faucets that you can make “smart” now as well – last I
> looked they were extremely expensive though.
>
>
>
> For practical stuff, I really like to know when bathroom lights are left
> on for extended periods of time by kids … when the garage door is left open
> at night etc…. especially with the price of electricity here (even with LED
> lighting) …
>
>
>
> Also, when nobody is home for periods of time I’ll get an alert when
> lights are left on … my hot water tank is connected – it stops heating the
> water when nobody is going to be around …
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
> [email protected]>
> *Reply-To: *<[email protected]>
> *Date: *Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 4:20 PM
> *To: *<[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation
>
>
>
> No, get the dog to take out the trash...
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 08, 2017 1:53 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation
>
>
>
> I guess I have a DumbHome.
>
>
>
> And oddly, the things I might want to check remotely don’t seem to be on
> the list.  Like did someone leave the bathroom faucet running or a burner
> on the stove lit.  With  LED lights I don’t obsess that a light might be
> left on for 8 hours.  And I don’t need my fridge ordering more eggs from
> Amazon.
>
>
>
> The worst DIY home automation item has to be these Ring Doorbells.  For
> the time people spend dealing with their bugs, they could just hire someone
> to house sit and call them when someone is at the door.
>
>
>
> Now if I could just get the dog to bring in my wife’s paper in the morning.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 8, 2017 2:40 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation
>
>
>
> Look at my other posts but in short…
>
>
>
> Ecobee3 thermostat system with remote sensors deployed on each floor in
> different areas
>
> Zwave vents that are controlled to maintain temperature in different areas
> of the house
>
> Light switches all GE (which do not have instant status option but that’s
> fine for me) including dimmers
>
> Elk alarm system integrated with controller
>
> Controller is Vera
>
> Amazon Echo/Alexa voice control
>
> Weiser touch screen door locks
>
> Water sensor in basement (zwave)
>
> Whole home energy monitor
>
>
>
> List goes on and one J
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Tushar Patel <
> [email protected]>
> *Reply-To: *<[email protected]>
> *Date: *Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 8:40 AM
> *To: *<[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation
>
>
>
> Do you have part list you used you can share?
>
> You mentioned Zwave. What else?
>
>
>
> Tushar
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 5:58 AM, Paul Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> My house used to run purely on Control4 system .. professionally installed
> and quite expensive.  I got sick of $125 service calls for rather simple
> stuff to be done and decided to replace it with a DYI system…. The Control4
> system with labour and service calls etc set me back around $25k in total.
>
>
>
> Right now with the DYI system I have probably $4k invested plus my time …
> at most.  Zero monthly subscription, zero headaches …. And no service calls.
>
>
>
> The one part though that I think a lot of folks overlook (as I did) is
> working with electrical in your house … I replaced outlets and switches for
> example and the zwave stuff I used is much deeper than normal switches – I
> wish now that I had just hired an electrician to mess around with that
> stuff in particular as it’s not something I do every day kind of thing ….
>
>
>
> I know someone in my area that does home automation for a living … done it
> for years.  He is very busy … his main clients are folks who have cottages
> and wish to remotely control/monitor their properties especially during
> times they are not visiting it very much …
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Novak <
> [email protected]>
> *Reply-To: *<[email protected]>
> *Date: *Friday, January 6, 2017 at 4:13 PM
> *To: *<[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation
>
>
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/
>
>
>
> Just reading that a little bit may peak your interest in the DIY stuff. I
> am considering setting up a system at home. https://home-assistant.io/ is
> the software I'd like to use to run it.
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:48 PM, jay weekley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> That's what I was wondering.  I look at the stuff Lowe's and wonder how
> many people have the knowledge to set it all up but I have zero knowledge
> in the products.  Maybe it's time to automate my thermostat.
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> There is so much do it yourself gear out there now I would think the only
> money would be in the very high end stuff. Things you probably have to
> focus as a sole business.
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:23 AM jay weekley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Is there any real money to be made in home automation?  Any recurring
> revenue?  How about headaches and problems?
>
>

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