I might have a $25 bill in the summer... Probably $150 in the winter. But yeah, if I have to make heat for something I use NG. I do have an electric oven but I also have an NG oven. Electric does heat up faster for some reason.
From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation Me too. My tanks gas been great and cheap to run. Mine is natural gas as is my clothes dryer, heater, and stove top. My gas bill averages $25 a month on average billing. On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, 7:11 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: I have been tankless for almost 20 years. Love them. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation If you can afford all the latest home automation tech, you probably also have European style point-of-use tankless water heaters. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 7:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation You know, I came across one of those on the Alabama Gulf Coast last time I vacationed down there - * it turned off the hot water when no one was there (but broke - and did NOT turn the hot water back on!) * it sensed when a door was open and disabled the air conditioner. Well that is just ridiculous!! I go to the beach to hear the ocean....I want to hear the surf....and not sweat while I do it! Perhaps I should have tinkered with it....(it was October so it wound up not being too hot) :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Stewart To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation Hehe… there are faucets that you can make “smart” now as well – last I looked they were extremely expensive though. For practical stuff, I really like to know when bathroom lights are left on for extended periods of time by kids … when the garage door is left open at night etc…. especially with the price of electricity here (even with LED lighting) … Also, when nobody is home for periods of time I’ll get an alert when lights are left on … my hot water tank is connected – it stops heating the water when nobody is going to be around … Paul From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Chuck McCown <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 4:20 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation No, get the dog to take out the trash... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 1:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation I guess I have a DumbHome. And oddly, the things I might want to check remotely don’t seem to be on the list. Like did someone leave the bathroom faucet running or a burner on the stove lit. With LED lights I don’t obsess that a light might be left on for 8 hours. And I don’t need my fridge ordering more eggs from Amazon. The worst DIY home automation item has to be these Ring Doorbells. For the time people spend dealing with their bugs, they could just hire someone to house sit and call them when someone is at the door. Now if I could just get the dog to bring in my wife’s paper in the morning. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 2:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation Look at my other posts but in short… Ecobee3 thermostat system with remote sensors deployed on each floor in different areas Zwave vents that are controlled to maintain temperature in different areas of the house Light switches all GE (which do not have instant status option but that’s fine for me) including dimmers Elk alarm system integrated with controller Controller is Vera Amazon Echo/Alexa voice control Weiser touch screen door locks Water sensor in basement (zwave) Whole home energy monitor List goes on and one J From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Tushar Patel <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 8:40 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation Do you have part list you used you can share? You mentioned Zwave. What else? Tushar On Jan 8, 2017, at 5:58 AM, Paul Stewart <[email protected]> wrote: My house used to run purely on Control4 system .. professionally installed and quite expensive. I got sick of $125 service calls for rather simple stuff to be done and decided to replace it with a DYI system…. The Control4 system with labour and service calls etc set me back around $25k in total. Right now with the DYI system I have probably $4k invested plus my time … at most. Zero monthly subscription, zero headaches …. And no service calls. The one part though that I think a lot of folks overlook (as I did) is working with electrical in your house … I replaced outlets and switches for example and the zwave stuff I used is much deeper than normal switches – I wish now that I had just hired an electrician to mess around with that stuff in particular as it’s not something I do every day kind of thing …. I know someone in my area that does home automation for a living … done it for years. He is very busy … his main clients are folks who have cottages and wish to remotely control/monitor their properties especially during times they are not visiting it very much … Paul From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Novak <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Friday, January 6, 2017 at 4:13 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/ Just reading that a little bit may peak your interest in the DIY stuff. I am considering setting up a system at home. https://home-assistant.io/ is the software I'd like to use to run it. On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:48 PM, jay weekley <[email protected]> wrote: That's what I was wondering. I look at the stuff Lowe's and wonder how many people have the knowledge to set it all up but I have zero knowledge in the products. Maybe it's time to automate my thermostat. On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> wrote: There is so much do it yourself gear out there now I would think the only money would be in the very high end stuff. Things you probably have to focus as a sole business. On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:23 AM jay weekley <[email protected]> wrote: Is there any real money to be made in home automation? Any recurring revenue? How about headaches and problems?
