Yeah IMO the FSK PMP100 is still very hard to beat for long range shots. Not that a 430/450 doesn't work at long range, but the lower mod level hurts the sector bad. If there are a bunch of 10-15 mile shots, you might want to keep an FSK AP around just to keep those people on without hurting any of the short range people.

It is very hard to argue with the value proposition of the ePMP. Compare the quality and feature set to the price and it's really tough to justify spending more money that that. We have a few hundred people on ePMP now and it's been trouble free.

PMP450 still has some features that ePMP doesn't, like the AP Proxy to access SM's, the RF Private IP range....and probably other things that I can't think of at the moment :) PMP450 also has the 450m as an obvious upgrade path to increase sector capacity without changing SM's. I can't imagine such a thing is possible with ePMP. They could maybe someday release a model with an 802.11ac chipset, but even if it's backwards compatible you'll have to swap SM's to realize the higher capacity.

So I guess if access to capital isn't an issue then 450 makes a better long term investment, but the ePMP will always sit there and tantalize with all the money you could have saved :)



------ Original Message ------
From: "Vlad Sedov" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 1/30/2017 2:46:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

We've not seen any performance improvement switching a 430 cluster to 450 APs, until all (or most) 430 SMs got swapped out with 450 SMs..

As for EPMP, it still does better than other wifi-esque gear, and channel reuse works well.. Just not as good for long distance shots and really noisy environments as 450.
EPMP also gives you a much wider range of channels that you can use.




Vlad



On 1/30/2017 1:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
A wisp wants me to buy them out but the gear is old.
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Lots of 100 fsk gear and some 430.
430 gear is getting cheap and will pretty much do the job.
A move to 450 can reuse the 430 sm radios.
But the price on the epmp1000 is not too bad.
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Thinking about it.� Probably will not do anything.�
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Would I be better off just diving into the epmp?
It is a bit of a noisy environment and it seems like the 430 stuff does OK.
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I think you cannot go wrong with 450,� but for the money is the 1000 better?�
Is buying 430s a waste of money on a 450 system?
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