Any of them getting 1/10th of the subsidy you got. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 2:11:57 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these 




What wisp? Show me the wisp that would do this. 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 1:08 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these 


If you plowed 20 miles of fiber for one house, you can bet your ass a WISP 
would do the same. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 11:38:35 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these 




Depends on what you call rural. I have served areas with perhaps 1 house every 
5 miles. You are not going to find a wisp willing to build out in areas like 
that. I plowed 20 miles of fiber for one single house. 




From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 10:34 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these 


If WISPA does their job well, small business can more effectively service the 
rural markets than the telcos, for alot less money 


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Jason McKemie < 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: 


You think? It seems like the Republicans are in the pocket of big telco, so I 
wouldn't hold my breath. 

On Wednesday, February 1, 2017, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 

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i think that bank account may be closed very soon 


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Mark Radabaugh < m...@amplex.net > wrote: 



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Lipstick on a pig. The copper in still rotting in the ground and the only 
approved Centurylink fix appears to be the upgrade from black to orange trash 
bags. Except when those are out of stock. 

Centurylink will be back to the FCC shortly crying about how the need more 
support money to fix the plant. The only question is if they do it this year or 
next. 




Mark Radabaugh 
WISPA FCC Committee Chair 
fcc_ch...@wispa.org 
419-261-5996 




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On Feb 1, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 



They couldn't before either, but they didn't give a shit. 




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From: "Darin Steffl" < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:49:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these 


These should all be fiber fed. Any new DSLAM's with CAF funding are very likely 
fiber fed. They just can't support the bandwidth requirements with only bonded 
T1's anymore. 


On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:34 PM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 

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One would suspect a calix e7-2 or e7-20 (2Tbps backplane, 100Gbps link to each 
line card). I don't think you can even feed those by anything short of at least 
a gig ethernet circuit. I never really tried on any of the E7-2s I've used in 
the past though :) 




On Jan 31, 2017 11:29 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < 
li...@packetflux.com > wrote: 

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Out of curiosity, do you know how are they feeding these shelves? 

I know that in at least one case a couple of years ago, Qwest was feeding an 
entire neighborhood on I think 4 T1's. 



On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > 
wrote: 

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Exactly. Calix VDSL2 Remote DSLAM. These are the result of CAF funding from 
Govt. to provide minimum 10/1 Mbps speeds to the census blocks they took 
funding for. 

If Centurylink had crappy or no DSL in these areas before, expect them to be 
able to offer somewhat functional to excellent DSL speeds to customers in range 
of these remote DSLAMs. For really close customers, they may see up to 40/1 
Mbps speeds. 




On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Carl Peterson < cpeter...@portnetworks.com > 
wrote: 

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As someone already said, its clearly and E3. 
https://www.calix.com/systems/e-series/e3-e5-dsl.html 




On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 4:18 PM, George Skorup < george.sko...@cbcast.com > 
wrote: 

<blockquote>
Regen would be my guess. 

On 1/31/2017 2:45 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: 

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it got fiber ran into it for remote dslam to provide customers vdsl2 along that 
route. 

Tim 

-----Original Message----- 

<blockquote>
From: "Carl Peterson" < cpeter...@portnetworks.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Date: 01/31/17 03:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these 

Calix. I'd guess G.Fast 

Sent from my iPhone 


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On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Josh Corson < j...@bluebitnetworks.com > wrote: 



Does anyone know what these are? They are popping up on fairly rural 
areas of our coverage areas and on the state highways. 

Thanks 
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