Sounds like alternative fact to me... Let me get on twitter ,comrade, so I
can blame this on Clinton and take news... That way all my craven lackeys
will believe everything I utter or type is sacrosanct.... Where the hell is
my 20% tariffed Tecate?

On Feb 15, 2017 6:56 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:

> YES. Customs == border.
>
> On Feb 15, 2017 7:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> So he wasn't on US soil?  At customs check in, our rights get suspended?
>>   I need to consult the oracle...
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2017 6:43 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Decent writeup here:
>>>
>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/02/a-nas
>>> a-engineer-is-required-to-unlock-his-phone-at-the-border/516489/
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Jaime Solorza
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Engineer was on US soil, at airport, not border..... Good luck with
>>> that
>>> > fact
>>> >
>>> > On Feb 15, 2017 4:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> You are not protected by the Constitution when at the border. DHS has
>>> >> legal rights to detain you indefinitely until they feel like you are
>>> not a
>>> >> threat.
>>> >>
>>> >> Good luck with that.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Feb 15, 2017 5:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If someone asks me to unlock my phone, I would ask them to show me
>>> their
>>> >>> warrant.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:01 PM, Josh Reynolds
>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> This recently happened to an individual with a government issued
>>> phone
>>> >>> from NASA JPL, and there's a huge stink because the DHS didn't have
>>> >>> clearance to view the classification of the material on this device.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Feb 15, 2017 4:58 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you travel outside the country, and carry any electronic devices
>>> like
>>> >>> phones and laptops, be prepared for the possibility they may demand
>>> that you
>>> >>> unlock the device and let them rummage through your files and social
>>> media
>>> >>> posts.  Even if you are just an ordinary citizen.  If you think they
>>> need a
>>> >>> warrant for this, you would be mistaken.  They can probably only
>>> detain your
>>> >>> for maybe a day and confiscate your phone, but you don’t have the
>>> same
>>> >>> rights as you  would if a cop stopped you on the street.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> There are rumors the retro Nokia 3310 phone will be revived.  That
>>> would
>>> >>> probably be a good one to take on foreign trips.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:40 PM
>>> >>> To: [email protected]
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he
>>> left
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Computer wore tennis shoes.
>>> >>> Janitor
>>> >>> Mop bucket
>>> >>> Been done before
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:34 PM
>>> >>> To: [email protected]
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he
>>> left
>>> >>>
>>> >>> This is interesting, explains alot of the leakage. so basically now
>>> the
>>> >>> janitors can take a little gander every now and then
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the
>>> N.S.A.
>>> >>> may do with the information gathered by its most powerful
>>> surveillance
>>> >>> operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping
>>> laws.
>>> >>> These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and
>>> emails
>>> >>> that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people
>>> abroad that
>>> >>> cross domestic network switches.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> https://pjmedia.com/trending/ 2017/02/15/surprise-at-the-
>>> >>> end-obama-administration-gave- nsa-broad-new-powers/
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>> team
>>> >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>>
>>

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