- Under the Fourth Amendment, searches of persons arriving at U.S. ports
   of entry and personal effects in their possession, including computers or
   other personal devices, are reasonable *per se*. Thus, CBP agents do not
   need to obtain a warrant or have reason to suspect an individual is engaged
   in illegal activity before performing a search.
   - It is unclear whether this rule also applies to CBP efforts to
   interdict outgoing traffic of persons who are *leaving* the United
   States.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/authority-us-customs-and-border-protection-agents-overview

On Feb 15, 2017 8:19 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sounds like alternative fact to me... Let me get on twitter ,comrade, so I
> can blame this on Clinton and take news... That way all my craven lackeys
> will believe everything I utter or type is sacrosanct.... Where the hell is
> my 20% tariffed Tecate?
>
> On Feb 15, 2017 6:56 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> YES. Customs == border.
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2017 7:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So he wasn't on US soil?  At customs check in, our rights get suspended?
>>>   I need to consult the oracle...
>>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2017 6:43 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Decent writeup here:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/02/a-nas
>>>> a-engineer-is-required-to-unlock-his-phone-at-the-border/516489/
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Jaime Solorza
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Engineer was on US soil, at airport, not border..... Good luck with
>>>> that
>>>> > fact
>>>> >
>>>> > On Feb 15, 2017 4:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You are not protected by the Constitution when at the border. DHS has
>>>> >> legal rights to detain you indefinitely until they feel like you are
>>>> not a
>>>> >> threat.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Good luck with that.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Feb 15, 2017 5:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If someone asks me to unlock my phone, I would ask them to show me
>>>> their
>>>> >>> warrant.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:01 PM, Josh Reynolds
>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> This recently happened to an individual with a government issued
>>>> phone
>>>> >>> from NASA JPL, and there's a huge stink because the DHS didn't have
>>>> >>> clearance to view the classification of the material on this device.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Feb 15, 2017 4:58 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If you travel outside the country, and carry any electronic devices
>>>> like
>>>> >>> phones and laptops, be prepared for the possibility they may demand
>>>> that you
>>>> >>> unlock the device and let them rummage through your files and
>>>> social media
>>>> >>> posts.  Even if you are just an ordinary citizen.  If you think
>>>> they need a
>>>> >>> warrant for this, you would be mistaken.  They can probably only
>>>> detain your
>>>> >>> for maybe a day and confiscate your phone, but you don’t have the
>>>> same
>>>> >>> rights as you  would if a cop stopped you on the street.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> There are rumors the retro Nokia 3310 phone will be revived.  That
>>>> would
>>>> >>> probably be a good one to take on foreign trips.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:40 PM
>>>> >>> To: [email protected]
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before
>>>> he left
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Computer wore tennis shoes.
>>>> >>> Janitor
>>>> >>> Mop bucket
>>>> >>> Been done before
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> From: That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:34 PM
>>>> >>> To: [email protected]
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before
>>>> he left
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> This is interesting, explains alot of the leakage. so basically now
>>>> the
>>>> >>> janitors can take a little gander every now and then
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Steve <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the
>>>> N.S.A.
>>>> >>> may do with the information gathered by its most powerful
>>>> surveillance
>>>> >>> operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping
>>>> laws.
>>>> >>> These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and
>>>> emails
>>>> >>> that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people
>>>> abroad that
>>>> >>> cross domestic network switches.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> https://pjmedia.com/trending/ 2017/02/15/surprise-at-the-
>>>> >>> end-obama-administration-gave- nsa-broad-new-powers/
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team
>>>> >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>

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