I have had to turn on and demonstrate the function of electronic gear at 
airports many times.  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:29 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he left

  a.. Under the Fourth Amendment, searches of persons arriving at U.S. ports of 
entry and personal effects in their possession, including computers or other 
personal devices, are reasonable per se. Thus, CBP agents do not need to obtain 
a warrant or have reason to suspect an individual is engaged in illegal 
activity before performing a search. 
  b.. It is unclear whether this rule also applies to CBP efforts to interdict 
outgoing traffic of persons who are leaving the United States.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/authority-us-customs-and-border-protection-agents-overview


On Feb 15, 2017 8:19 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote:

  Sounds like alternative fact to me... Let me get on twitter ,comrade, so I 
can blame this on Clinton and take news... That way all my craven lackeys will 
believe everything I utter or type is sacrosanct.... Where the hell is my 20% 
tariffed Tecate? 

  On Feb 15, 2017 6:56 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:

    YES. Customs == border.

    On Feb 15, 2017 7:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote:

      So he wasn't on US soil?  At customs check in, our rights get suspended?  
 I need to consult the oracle... 

      On Feb 15, 2017 6:43 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:

        Decent writeup here:

        
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/02/a-nasa-engineer-is-required-to-unlock-his-phone-at-the-border/516489/

        On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Jaime Solorza
        <[email protected]> wrote:
        > Engineer was on US soil, at airport, not border..... Good luck with 
that
        > fact
        >
        > On Feb 15, 2017 4:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
        >>
        >> You are not protected by the Constitution when at the border. DHS has
        >> legal rights to detain you indefinitely until they feel like you are 
not a
        >> threat.
        >>
        >> Good luck with that.
        >>
        >> On Feb 15, 2017 5:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
        >>>
        >>> If someone asks me to unlock my phone, I would ask them to show me 
their
        >>> warrant.
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:01 PM, Josh Reynolds
        >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> This recently happened to an individual with a government issued 
phone
        >>> from NASA JPL, and there's a huge stink because the DHS didn't have
        >>> clearance to view the classification of the material on this device.
        >>>
        >>> On Feb 15, 2017 4:58 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
        >>>
        >>> If you travel outside the country, and carry any electronic devices 
like
        >>> phones and laptops, be prepared for the possibility they may demand 
that you
        >>> unlock the device and let them rummage through your files and 
social media
        >>> posts.  Even if you are just an ordinary citizen.  If you think 
they need a
        >>> warrant for this, you would be mistaken.  They can probably only 
detain your
        >>> for maybe a day and confiscate your phone, but you don’t have the 
same
        >>> rights as you  would if a cop stopped you on the street.
        >>>
        >>> There are rumors the retro Nokia 3310 phone will be revived.  That 
would
        >>> probably be a good one to take on foreign trips.
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
        >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:40 PM
        >>> To: [email protected]
        >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before 
he left
        >>>
        >>> Computer wore tennis shoes.
        >>> Janitor
        >>> Mop bucket
        >>> Been done before
        >>>
        >>> From: That One Guy /sarcasm
        >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:34 PM
        >>> To: [email protected]
        >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before 
he left
        >>>
        >>> This is interesting, explains alot of the leakage. so basically now 
the
        >>> janitors can take a little gander every now and then
        >>>
        >>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
        >>>
        >>> The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the 
N.S.A.
        >>> may do with the information gathered by its most powerful 
surveillance
        >>> operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping 
laws.
        >>> These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and 
emails
        >>> that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people 
abroad that
        >>> cross domestic network switches.
        >>>
        >>> https://pjmedia.com/trending/ 2017/02/15/surprise-at-the-
        >>> end-obama-administration-gave- nsa-broad-new-powers/
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> --
        >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team
        >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >

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