I am told supermercados El Guero in Chicago area carries the Masa and
husks...

On Feb 25, 2017 4:43 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> So, I rarely order hot dogs from portillos when I visit chicago.
>
> Or italian beef.
>
> What do I order?  "Tamales".   Portillos "Tamales".   Note how I provided
> suitable quotes around "Tamales".   That's because chicago "Tamales" are
> not Tamales.  Still good.  Kinda like Chicago Deep Dish Pizza is not
> Pizza.  Still very yummy, but in a different category altogether.  What I
> call tamales are hand rolled and as you stated : made by someone's Aunt.
> And what I call pizza is made without a pan in an oven which is helliously
> hot, and has red sauce and mozzarella and absolutely no weird 'healthy"
> vegetables.
>
> I discovered Chicago "tamales" by accident when attempting to find a
> italian beef sandwich somewhere other than downtown, and somewhere had
> tamales.   Tamales at a beef & hotdog place?  That's odd... gotta order
> some.  Turned out better than the beef.   Note to self:  Mr Beef and Pizza
> on North Harlem:  Great steamed mini Chicago "Tamales", not so great on the
> beef.   After that, I have tried them various places, and they're almost
> always good.   Not the same as a good Tamale, but still yummy.
>
> What else do I eat when I'm in Chicagoland?
>
> Chicago style hot dogs from numerous places - gotta have a Vienna beef hot
> dog, and everything else authentic.  If the relish doesn't glow in the
> dark, I don't want it.   Skip the sport peppers though.   I get it, but I'm
> just not into the whole sport peppers thing.  Definitely no ketchup.
>
> Italian beef ideally from Mr Beef on Orleans, but that's way down town.
> And last time I ended up down there it was on a weekend day when they were
> closed.   :(   A couple years back I flew into Midway, drove downtown, ate
> beef, then drove back out to Schaumberg where my hotel is.  I've found
> acceptable substitutes elsewhere, but they're not as good.   Oh, and in
> case anyone asks, I like 'em Sweet and Wet or even better, Sweet and
> Dipped, depending on how messy I want to be.
>
> Chili 4-way from steak-n-shake.   Ok, it's really 5-way hold the onions,
> but still....     Wish I had discovered this whole dish when WISPAMERICA
> was in Covington before I was at the airport on the way out of town, as I
> would have tried it at a few different places.
>
> Oh, and back on "Tamales".... If I can find a box of original
> supreme-brand "tamales" in a freezer section somewhere on my way out of
> town (to the airport), often a box will end up stuck right in the middle of
> my checked bag.  They seem to keep just fine on the flight home that way.
> These happen to be the same variety as the ones that Mr Beef on North
> Harlem sells, just a bit larger.   The other brand of Chicago frozen
> tamales are spicier and I don't like them as well so they have to be
> supreme brand.  Rumour has it that Portillos at least used to use the
> Supreme "tamales" as well, but I'm not so sure they still do (they taste a
> bit different).  Wouldn't surprise me if they decided to "roll their own".
>
> What did I miss?
>
> Oh, deep dish pizza - I really like Lou's crust, and Giordano's filling -
> if I could get these together somewhere I'd be in heaven.  Still need to do
> some research...  Usually there's two deep dish pizza nights whenever I
> visit - one experimental, and one toss-up between the two I mentioned.
>
> Probably missed something else.  Darn, now I'm hungry for a lot of stuff
> which is 2000 miles away.   I had hoped that at least there would be a
> Steak n shake near downtown in Nashville since I've been having a chili
> 4-way craving for some time now, but no, they're like 20 miles out of town
> and I'm not going to have a rental car this time.  Looks like there's a
> deep dish pizza place near the hotel that serves italian beef too.. maybe
> will give it a try in a couple of weeks.
>
> Oh, yeah, I'm also known to visit a white castle now and again.  I
> shouldn't like the little nasty hamburgers, but I do.   Looks like there's
> one in Nashville also...  unfortunately my significant other despises them
> so maybe I'll have to sneak down when she's not looking.
>
> -forrest
>
>
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>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 12:00 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't understand this portillos craze. I like hot dogs, I like real
>> ones better, but I'm not going to go full under an overpass craziness over
>> one like everybody seems to be on portillos. Do these come with a handjob
>> or something nobody is talking about?
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 11:53 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I had Portillo's for dinner. Nanananabooboo.
>>
>>
>> On 2/24/2017 11:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> Our local place gives you a choice of refried beans or black beans, I
>> always take the black beans.
>>
>>
>>
>> Refried beans seem like you should check them with a Geiger counter.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 10:45 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> ...... Unless you're going to tell me what refried beans actually are and
>> what that refried beans with white cheese is, cause I'll tell you, it's not
>> great value brand refried beans with shredded mozzarella. If you tell me
>> this secret, well, Fuck Trump for 8 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 10:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Holy shit dude, the first two " hate crimes" they reference were not hate
>> crimes, they were documented false flags...... I couldn't even read further
>> to see if they reference fbi stats ..   problem is, the order is two weeks
>> old and fbi wouldn't have a data set release for that time period. Don't be
>> fed, don't be a sheep
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 10:34 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The hate crime increase rate by FBI is here in your states paper....
>>
>> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-madigan
>> -immigration-hate-crimes-summit-20170223-story.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 9:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> There is something about how they roll out of the corn husk ribs. (I'm
>> not supposed to be eating the husk too am I? Because that may end up in the
>> raw oysters lust of shit I won't make my kids try)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 10:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I  checked tamale reviews in Chicago....Wow...Banana leaves? Chocolate?
>> WTF....I know there are allot of mojaritas (Maybe Gino or Faisal will
>> unravel it for you) all over.  There has to be a place to buy dried corn
>> husks and nixtamal Masa!!    Ranch Pro carried decent Mexican
>> offerings....Wonder if Masa can be shipped safely... Husks is no
>> problem...Let me check..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 8:54 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> They were in a metal can, a little softer than Mexican aunt tamales, I
>> grew up on em. They were black and white label generic.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't have a real tamales til I was in 5th grade or so, my buddy lio
>> and me were at the park on a bridge, he dropped his recorder (the flute
>> thing) and I acted like I was gonna kick it off, it bounced and I kicked it
>> off into the river. He told me I had to tell his old man what happenned or
>> he'd get in trouble. They were getting ready to eat when we got there, we
>> told them, it was all good and they invited me to eat. I don't know if
>> you've ever been invited to eat in a Mexicans house or not, it's not a
>> question or option if there are any aunts there. You will eat before you
>> leave, and you will eat until you're full and then some.
>>
>> That's where I got exposed to tamales, and a bunch of other stuff I don't
>> recall what it was. So good, so freaking good.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 9:37 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> In a can, or a glass jar?  I remember Derby brand tamales in a jar, do
>> they still sell those?  They lacked all the characteristics of good
>> tamales, but were strangely appealing.  Like Pringles or candy corn.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:16 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Maseca-Instant-Masa-For-Tamales-C
>> orn-Mix-4.4-lb/10790738
>>
>>
>>
>> I still haven't sourced any husks. Btw are we talking green or dried
>> brown? And don't send a Mexican aunt to murder me, but if I can't find
>> husks, will wax paper work?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> When I was a kid mom was getting these canned tamales. They're the
>> closest I remember eating to authentic Mexican aunt tamales. She doesn't
>> remember, there was no English on the label. We do have an authentic (ish)
>> Mexican joint here (they make margaritas in a slushy machine), maybe
>> they'll hook me up with husks
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 8:57 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> What are ingredients? Brand?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 7:19 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> It sucks we had a bitch for 8 years, a man would have actually changed
>> law instead of limbo, like how he fucked the immigrants.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 5:44 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I thought the top story was Spicer saying they will crackdown at the
>> Federal level more on rec marijuana? I mean, it's only funding schools,
>> creating jobs, and paying for roads in Colorado... No big deal.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017 5:39 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Something is wrong when the top news story today is Spicey banning some
>> major news outlets from his WH press conference.  Not that it isn’t
>> disturbing, but …
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello, does anybody care about the story that North Korea is believed to
>> have carried out an assassination in a Malaysian airport using VX?  And it
>> is believed they purposely did it in a way to demonstrate to the world and
>> especially the U.S. their capability and willingness to use the banned
>> chemical weapon?  Oh, and to piss off their only two friends in the world,
>> Malaysia and China.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kim Jong Un is probably wondering, what do I have to do to make the front
>> page?  I launched a ballistic missile toward Japan while Trump was meeting
>> with the PM of Japan.  Then I had my half brother assassinated in public in
>> a foreign airport using 2-part (battlefield weaponized) VX nerve agent.
>> And all the Americans care about is speeches at CPAC and who was disinvited
>> to Spicey’s press conference.  And whether Dippin Dots are the ice cream of
>> the future.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Forrest
>> Christian (List Account)
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 5:19 PM
>> *To:* af <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> You've hit on a lot of my frustration with the R's and D's.
>>
>>
>>
>> Add to that the fact that they have convinced the american public that
>> the only viable option is either an 'R' or a 'D' and you pretty much sum it
>> up.
>>
>>
>>
>> For the record, I didn't vote for either a 'R' or a 'D' the last
>> election.   I hoped to be part of the solution where we consider other
>> alternatives as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> There was an episode of the Star Trek TV series titled “Let That Be Your
>> Last Battlefield” about two warring aliens that appeared identical except
>> one was black on one side and white on the other, while the other was the
>> reverse.  The difference was all important to the aliens, but the
>> Enterprise crew could hardly tell them apart.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think of that when people immediately identify someone as left or
>> right, Democrat or Republican, Shia or Sunni.  As if their faces were
>> painted a certain way so you can immediately tell.  And once you know their
>> political party or religious sect, that’s all you need to know.  TV is that
>> way, if they are interviewing someone, the most important thing is to have
>> a graphic that tells you if they are a D or R.  It’s like a sporting event,
>> you need to know what team someone is on, and then can cheer or boo
>> accordingly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our political parties take themselves way too seriously, they seem to
>> believe people are born either D or R and that party owns them.  The
>> parties don’t seem capable of running capable candidates for office and
>> governing well in order to earn votes.  But when they eek out an election
>> victory, they proclaim it a landslide and believe they have a mandate.
>> Rather than accept that voters hated the other guys a little more.  This
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s kind of ironic with Trump and Putin in the news, neither of whom
>> really care about ideology, it’s all about power and personality.  Yet we
>> still want it to be a story about left vs right, my party vs your party.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *[email protected]
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:51 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeahbut they are democrats so they are leftists so they are inherently
>> truthful and trustyworthy...
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 7:45 AM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> The statements come from representatives of the "Sweden Democrats"
>> party.  Skim the wikipedia article about who they are.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some choice quotes:
>>
>> "The party had its roots in Swedish fascism[15]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-r1089-15> and
>> was a part of the white supremacy
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy> movement;[16]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-telegraphboots-16>
>> "
>>
>> "The Sweden Democrats, however, remain isolated in the Riksdag because
>> the other parties are staunchly maintaining a policy of refusing
>> cooperation <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordon_sanitaire#In_politics> with
>> them.[25] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-25>"
>>
>> "The Sweden Democrats believe that the current Swedish immigration
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden> and integration
>> policies have been a failure. They oppose integration because they believe
>> that integration involves "meeting in the middle" and do not think that the 
>> indigenous
>> Swedish people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedes> should have to
>> bear the burden "
>>
>>
>>
>> The section on ideologies is interesting too.  They might as well have
>> "Make Sweden Great Again" hats.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>>
>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
>>
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>> Sent: 2/23/2017 4:15:29 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> My only point is, Trump made one of his typical off-the-cuff/out his ass
>> utterances, he was excoriated by the left press.
>>
>> Now it seems there was something of substance behind his comment.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:12 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> Sweden has accepted something like 25 times as many refugees per capita
>> than the U.S.  And they have been mostly men who can’t find work.  Whereas
>> the U.S. accepts mostly women and children, who have been heavily screened,
>> and there are usually communities willing to help them integrate.  I’m not
>> sure why we are wanting to point fingers at Sweden and make some political
>> issue of this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why not instead look for a model of how to do this right?  By all
>> accounts, Canada is very good at this, with families virtually adopting
>> refugees and helping them resettle and integrate into Canadian society.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just be happy we get some choice unlike Europe which doesn’t have
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>
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