I'll give you that, first mission authorization, this was fubar, he relegated and assumed intelligence was good. I can guarantee zero Obama administration intelligence will ever be given credence again. We have good leadership in the military now, that you can't paint another way. But it's all limited now to mission day forward intelligence. If trump is smart, here in a half hour he will own this clusterfuck, ideally apologizing to the parents as a man. I doubt he will. We haven't had a military ready president in a long time, so I'm hoping he owns that too, he's got ideas, but will leave that to those who actually know, he already did this regarding enhanced interrogation. He could personally go over and kill every isis, AL queada and unknown terrorist, and you would still fault him, so I take your words with a block of salt, as I assume you do mine. He didn't say we as in the soldiers go over and don't fight to win, he said we as an administratively run nation dont, I don't anticipate you understanding that, it's expected you'll respond that way. But he has put leadership in place with an objective to win, and allowed them to define that win. As it should be. Win means a ending the target threat. Not appeasing the UN, or some liberal cuck stateside with a ginkos printed sign on a stick who can barely lift it.
On Feb 28, 2017 7:21 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote: There is a very large group of veterans who are fucking pissed that our commander in chief said that we don't fight to win. Mattis is also pissed his new boss called him a soldier. I love my retarted marine brothers and sisters, and we take offense whenever some civvy doesn't know the difference. That aside, with this raid being as botched as it was there were some critical failures in both intelligence and decision making at the highest level. Those units don't act unless they have very very very recent (sometimes to the minute) info unless told otherwise. Several things went wrong, no doubt, and some of that squarely falls on Trump. I don't care if he's your guy or if he's not, I don't give a damn. The go call in this instance was the wrong one. On Feb 28, 2017 7:10 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> wrote: > I never said all, I said all I know, limited to probably around fifty, > only one is lt colonel in airforce reserves so no high ranking, and only > two special forces limited to Rangers, the rest all being regular > personnel, so not a great representation of the WHOLE military, but given > the mindset amongst them I'd venture a guess without much apprehension that > they are a pretty good representation of the military overall. > > On Feb 28, 2017 7:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > You think all military active and veterans like Trump? Wow....Trump was > right about one thing.. he could kill someone in Times Square, and you'd > say it okay....I don't get it ...My critical mind is trying to understand > this blind faith in him... Almost like Jim Jones...Damn.... > > On Feb 28, 2017 5:49 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Can't go with that when it came to our capabilities and mission >> objectives the last guy was mouth in chief. This admin didn't want any >> military plans made public ever. >> I'd like to think at the end of the day this was just a mission that >> turned shitshow fast on its own. It is an insult to call it poor planning >> considering that's saying the mission training over the last 3 months >> wasn't taken seriously by the SEAL team. >> I personally wouldn't be at all suprised if the community organizer in >> chief had his minions leak the details. Or one of his antifa terrorist >> friends still embedded in the administration did so. All to do what was >> done, discredit the current administration. Every currently serving and >> veteran military personnel I know, with hehe exception of Josh here, >> supports trump and understands what went down in this mission was what it >> was and wants the same as I do from the people responsible if there was a >> leak. >> Even their lost brother in arms brother is a seal and hasn't said >> anything negative (though that may be a limitation of his status) >> >> >> On Feb 28, 2017 6:35 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin >>> that don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem >>> to connect the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that >>> Flynn was having with the Russians were a good thing. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Who benefits from the leak? >>> >>> 1. ISIS >>> 2. Enemies of Trump/GOP/USA >>> >>> ISIS probably did not leak to themselves. >>> >>> So what does that leave us with? >>> >>> Apply Occam's razor. >>> >>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:47 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals >>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid >>> >>> Exactly, thats why the dad didnt need to request an investigation, it is >>> being investigated >>> >>> He should have not addressed that during the softball interview and >>> waited til tonights address with a prepared speech >>> >>> but this is going to have a shit ton of fallout >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> The person to blame is the one that leaked details of the action to the >>> bad guys. >>> They walked into a setup. This was long planned under Obama. >>> >>> How do you not know that Obama did not leak it to make Trump look bad? >>> Or Hillary? >>> >>> Somebody in the know leaked it. >>> >>> He blamed our military. He is the Commander. Therefore he is blaming >>> himself irrespective of his words. >>> The guy certainly has no grace or class when it comes to things like >>> this. He needs a bit of “the buck stops here” but he is just the >>> opposite. >>> >>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:29 PM >>> *To:* Animal Farm >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for >>> SEAL's death in Yemen raid >>> >>> https://news.google.com/news/ amp?caurl=http%3A%2F% >>> 2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy% 2Fdefense%2F321614-trump- >>> appears-to-place-blame-on- generals-for-seal-killed-in- >>> yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526 >>> <https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy%2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-appears-to-place-blame-on-generals-for-seal-killed-in-yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>> >>> >>> >
