https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/28/full-transcript-donald-trump-presidential-address-congress?CMP=twt_gu
I feel like his speech was very well written. I wish he would have said more to denounce racially motivated attacks and bigotry, but overall it was well done. 8.5/10. I think he's a shit orator, but that's something you can work on. I'm curious where some of these magical trillions are going to be pulled from, and I'm not a fan of the 1-2 rule; it has a lot of potential for abuse. On Feb 28, 2017 7:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> wrote: > I'll give you that, first mission authorization, this was fubar, he > relegated and assumed intelligence was good. I can guarantee zero Obama > administration intelligence will ever be given credence again. > We have good leadership in the military now, that you can't paint another > way. But it's all limited now to mission day forward intelligence. > If trump is smart, here in a half hour he will own this clusterfuck, > ideally apologizing to the parents as a man. I doubt he will. We haven't > had a military ready president in a long time, so I'm hoping he owns that > too, he's got ideas, but will leave that to those who actually know, he > already did this regarding enhanced interrogation. > He could personally go over and kill every isis, AL queada and unknown > terrorist, and you would still fault him, so I take your words with a block > of salt, as I assume you do mine. > He didn't say we as in the soldiers go over and don't fight to win, he > said we as an administratively run nation dont, I don't anticipate you > understanding that, it's expected you'll respond that way. But he has put > leadership in place with an objective to win, and allowed them to define > that win. As it should be. Win means a ending the target threat. Not > appeasing the UN, or some liberal cuck stateside with a ginkos printed sign > on a stick who can barely lift it. > > > On Feb 28, 2017 7:21 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote: > > There is a very large group of veterans who are fucking pissed that our > commander in chief said that we don't fight to win. Mattis is also pissed > his new boss called him a soldier. I love my retarted marine brothers and > sisters, and we take offense whenever some civvy doesn't know the > difference. > > That aside, with this raid being as botched as it was there were some > critical failures in both intelligence and decision making at the highest > level. Those units don't act unless they have very very very recent > (sometimes to the minute) info unless told otherwise. Several things went > wrong, no doubt, and some of that squarely falls on Trump. I don't care if > he's your guy or if he's not, I don't give a damn. The go call in this > instance was the wrong one. > > On Feb 28, 2017 7:10 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I never said all, I said all I know, limited to probably around fifty, >> only one is lt colonel in airforce reserves so no high ranking, and only >> two special forces limited to Rangers, the rest all being regular >> personnel, so not a great representation of the WHOLE military, but given >> the mindset amongst them I'd venture a guess without much apprehension that >> they are a pretty good representation of the military overall. >> >> On Feb 28, 2017 7:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> You think all military active and veterans like Trump? Wow....Trump was >> right about one thing.. he could kill someone in Times Square, and you'd >> say it okay....I don't get it ...My critical mind is trying to understand >> this blind faith in him... Almost like Jim Jones...Damn.... >> >> On Feb 28, 2017 5:49 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Can't go with that when it came to our capabilities and mission >>> objectives the last guy was mouth in chief. This admin didn't want any >>> military plans made public ever. >>> I'd like to think at the end of the day this was just a mission that >>> turned shitshow fast on its own. It is an insult to call it poor planning >>> considering that's saying the mission training over the last 3 months >>> wasn't taken seriously by the SEAL team. >>> I personally wouldn't be at all suprised if the community organizer in >>> chief had his minions leak the details. Or one of his antifa terrorist >>> friends still embedded in the administration did so. All to do what was >>> done, discredit the current administration. Every currently serving and >>> veteran military personnel I know, with hehe exception of Josh here, >>> supports trump and understands what went down in this mission was what it >>> was and wants the same as I do from the people responsible if there was a >>> leak. >>> Even their lost brother in arms brother is a seal and hasn't said >>> anything negative (though that may be a limitation of his status) >>> >>> >>> On Feb 28, 2017 6:35 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin >>>> that don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem >>>> to connect the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that >>>> Flynn was having with the Russians were a good thing. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Who benefits from the leak? >>>> >>>> 1. ISIS >>>> 2. Enemies of Trump/GOP/USA >>>> >>>> ISIS probably did not leak to themselves. >>>> >>>> So what does that leave us with? >>>> >>>> Apply Occam's razor. >>>> >>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:47 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals >>>> for SEAL's death in Yemen raid >>>> >>>> Exactly, thats why the dad didnt need to request an investigation, it >>>> is being investigated >>>> >>>> He should have not addressed that during the softball interview and >>>> waited til tonights address with a prepared speech >>>> >>>> but this is going to have a shit ton of fallout >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> The person to blame is the one that leaked details of the action to the >>>> bad guys. >>>> They walked into a setup. This was long planned under Obama. >>>> >>>> How do you not know that Obama did not leak it to make Trump look bad? >>>> Or Hillary? >>>> >>>> Somebody in the know leaked it. >>>> >>>> He blamed our military. He is the Commander. Therefore he is blaming >>>> himself irrespective of his words. >>>> The guy certainly has no grace or class when it comes to things like >>>> this. He needs a bit of “the buck stops here” but he is just the >>>> opposite. >>>> >>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:29 PM >>>> *To:* Animal Farm >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for >>>> SEAL's death in Yemen raid >>>> >>>> https://news.google.com/news/ amp?caurl=http%3A%2F% >>>> 2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy% 2Fdefense%2F321614-trump- >>>> appears-to-place-blame-on- generals-for-seal-killed-in- >>>> yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526 >>>> <https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy%2Fdefense%2F321614-trump-appears-to-place-blame-on-generals-for-seal-killed-in-yemen-raid%3Famp#pt0-72526> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >
