ZTE fined $900M by US Commerce Dept for selling telco gear to Iran and North Korea. Hmmm....

On 3/8/2017 8:04 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
Gerard,
Looking at Baltic's website they seem to sell several software licenses for this ZTE GPON equipment. Like $50 per PON Port license, $5.50 per ONT, etc. Also $2100 for some server software. Are these required? Are you buying them on AliBaba? Or does it somehow work without the licenscing/server software?

Thanks
Chris

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Gerard Dupont III <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    That's the chassis. Then add the GTGH 16 port line card or the
    GTGO 8 port card.

    We use the Huawei ETP4830-A1 power supply and a string of telco
    batteries or you can replace one of the SMXA supervisor/uplink
    cards with a PRAM and do AC directly inside the C320.

    There are slight differences between these parts. For example, the
    SMXA uplink card has different subcards. One is 10G and other is
    just 1G. Card SMXA subcard UCDC/3 is what you want for 10G. Same
    for the ETP4830-A1, one of the subcards has ethernet and the other
    2 models only have RS232/RS485.



    On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Jason McKemie
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Is something like this a smaller version of what you're using?

        
https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-ZTE-OLT-ZXA10-Mini-Device_60221381720.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.zODsrR&s=p
        
<https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-ZTE-OLT-ZXA10-Mini-Device_60221381720.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.zODsrR&s=p>

        On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Chuck Hogg
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Ok, so my keyboard makes me look drunk Gerard says...

I've got 4 chassis's no problem, all with Class C optics. LOL!

            Regards,
            Chuck

            On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Chuck Hogg
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I've to 4 chassis so far and never a problem.  Not
                buying Alphion, ZTE.

                Regards,
                Chuck

                On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Paul Stewart
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                wrote:

                    Interesting …. do they work ok?

                    I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT
                    stuff … considerably more than that.  I did look
                    at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total
                    junk in my opinion - some people like it .. not my
                    thing.


                    On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    wrote:

                    I'm importing direct from China.  16Port OLT with
                    Class Optics and Power Supply for $3200. ONT's
                    for $25.  PLC's from $2-10 depending on the
                    split. Check Alibaba.

                    Regards,
                    Chuck

                    On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it
                        down to 16:1 and throw in another OLT if needed.

                        On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
                        Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their
                        initial deployment was 64x1. The company I
                        just got off the ground did 16x1.

                        On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson"
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                            AE gets to be a headache with power
                            costs and heat control in cabinets.


                            Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now
                            and probably well into the future.


                            I believe that is what Google did, maybe
                            8:1 max split?


                            The temptation with GPON is to stretch
                            it to the limits, which might cause some
                            re-splicing down the road if you want
                            super high FDX.


                            AE doesn’t have that problem even with
                            equipment a decade old I can still
                            supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps
                            each if I want to carry that much on the
                            backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and
                            it’s essentially backwards compatible
                            with GPON if your neighborhood runs are
                            short like mine. But again, lots of
                            power is required.


                            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>] *On
                            Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
                            *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
                            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON


                            Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per
                            wavelength and multiple wavelengths all
                            overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP
                            has to change.  All the splitters etc
                            still work.  That will give everyone on
                            the PON 312.5 Mbps symmetrical all at
                            the same time.  So oversubscribing 3:1
                            you could sell 1G symmetrical to
                            everyone and probably not run out of
                            headroom.


                            *From:*Carlos Alcantar

                            *Sent:*Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM

                            *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

                            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON


                            to add to this post with the new PON
                            technologies being released this year
                            giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a
                            non issue.



                            Carlos Alcantar

                            Race Communications / Race Team Member

                            1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

                            Phone: +1 415 376 3314
                            <tel:%28415%29%20376-3314> /
                            [email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>/
                            http://www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>


                            
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                            *From:*Af <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf
                            of George Skorup
                            <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>>
                            *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
                            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON


                            I'm not really worried about POTS and
                            RF. Everyone is using cell phones and
                            watching Netflix.

                            The AE deployment is a total waste of
                            equipment and resources for the
                            utilization we're seeing. I have to go
                            there next week and turn up another
                            switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less
                            than 100Mbps every night. The network
                            owner was convinced that everyone had to
                            have 1G FDX. They just don't realize how
                            much electronics and power is required
                            for 1k ports. There's less than 100
                            customers so far, so please, for the
                            love of god, lets fix this now! We'll
                            see what happens.

                            Anyway.. this project we're looking to
                            do on our own is a neighborhood of rich
                            bitches. We already have PMP450 there
                            and it works fine. They "want more
                            speed" and if they're willing to put up
                            some cash for it, then we'll build it.

                            On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

                                Alphion does, yes.


                                On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck
                                McCown" <[email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                    What kind of costs are you talking?
                                    Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs
                                    with POTS ports?

                                    Sterling is AE, I know his costs
                                    are pretty low.
                                    -----Original Message----- From:
                                    George Skorup Sent: Saturday,
                                    March 04, 2017 8:39 PM To:
                                    [email protected]
                                    <mailto:[email protected]> ;
                                    [email protected]
                                    <mailto:[email protected]>
                                    Subject: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

                                    We're looking to do another
                                    "fiberhood" with GPON instead of
                                    AE this time around. I remember
                                    Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion.
                                    Has anyone deployed the
                                    AOLT-4200? Looks like a good
                                    solution. Or what else have you
                                    used for small deployments?












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