Google "Cisco Fined", and you'll find everything from license / IP
violations to Russian kickbacks.

On Mar 8, 2017 8:49 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:

ZTE fined $900M by US Commerce Dept for selling telco gear to Iran and
North Korea. Hmmm....


On 3/8/2017 8:04 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

Gerard,
Looking at Baltic's website they seem to sell several software licenses for
this ZTE GPON equipment. Like $50 per PON Port license, $5.50 per ONT, etc.
Also $2100 for some server software. Are these required? Are you buying
them on AliBaba? Or does it somehow work without the licenscing/server
software?

Thanks
Chris


On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Gerard Dupont III <[email protected]>
wrote:

> That's the chassis. Then add the GTGH 16 port line card or the GTGO 8 port
> card.
>
> We use the Huawei ETP4830-A1 power supply and a string of telco batteries
> or you can replace one of the SMXA supervisor/uplink cards with a PRAM and
> do AC directly inside the C320.
>
> There are slight differences between these parts. For example, the SMXA
> uplink card has different subcards. One is 10G and other is just 1G. Card
> SMXA subcard UCDC/3 is what you want for 10G. Same for the ETP4830-A1, one
> of the subcards has ethernet and the other 2 models only have RS232/RS485.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Jason McKemie <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Is something like this a smaller version of what you're using?
>>
>> https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-ZTE-O
>> LT-ZXA10-Mini-Device_60221381720.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.zODsrR&s=p
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so my keyboard makes me look drunk Gerard says...
>>>
>>> I've got 4 chassis's no problem, all with Class C optics.  LOL!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've to 4 chassis so far and never a problem.  Not buying Alphion, ZTE.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Paul Stewart <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Interesting …. do they work ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably
>>>>> more than that.  I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total
>>>>> junk in my opinion - some people like it .. not my thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm importing direct from China.  16Port OLT with Class Optics and
>>>>> Power Supply for $3200.  ONT's for $25.  PLC's from $2-10 depending on the
>>>>> split.  Check Alibaba.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in
>>>>>> another OLT if needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was
>>>>>> 64x1. The company I just got off the ground did 16x1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in
>>>>>>> cabinets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the
>>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might
>>>>>>> cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can
>>>>>>> still supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> much on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially
>>>>>>> backwards compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like
>>>>>>> mine. But again, lots of power is required.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple
>>>>>>> wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change.  
>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>> the splitters etc still work.  That will give everyone on the PON 312.5
>>>>>>> Mbps symmetrical all at the same time.  So oversubscribing 3:1 you could
>>>>>>> sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Carlos Alcantar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released
>>>>>>> this year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <%28415%29%20376-3314> / [email protected] /
>>>>>>> http://www.race.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Af <[email protected]> on behalf of George Skorup <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell
>>>>>>> phones and watching Netflix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for
>>>>>>> the utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up
>>>>>>> another switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every 
>>>>>>> night.
>>>>>>> The network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They 
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports.
>>>>>>> There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god,
>>>>>>> lets fix this now! We'll see what happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a
>>>>>>> neighborhood of rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works
>>>>>>> fine. They "want more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> it, then we'll build it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alphion does, yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What kind of costs are you talking?
>>>>>>> Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March
>>>>>>> 04, 2017 8:39 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject:
>>>>>>> [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this
>>>>>>> time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone 
>>>>>>> deployed
>>>>>>> the AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> small deployments?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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