So how much are you guys paying for this ZTE stuff?

I just got a quote from Alphion and it's really not bad. I signed an NDA, so I can't tell....but the single port CPE is very close to an RB260 + SFP.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 3/9/2017 3:26:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

Thanks Gerard! What kind of management interface does the rectifier has?

btw: you guys have any bitcoin left and sold recently?

From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Gerard Dupont <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 3:18 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

1xC320 Chassis
1xSMXA/3 10G main control board (SMXA/1 for 1G uplinks only)
1xPRAM AC Power Supply/battery charger board
1xGTGH 16port OLT board
16xC++ OLT SFP Modules
1xFan tray
+Power Cords

This leaves a free slot which you can install a 16 port GPON or EPON board or a 24 port SFP board for 48 AE customers using CSFP modules.

If you already have +/- 48volt available, you can get a second SMXA instead of the PRAM and have redundant control boards and more uplink capacity.

Did anyone else get an email from a ZTE sales rep after posting on this thread?

Gerard




Gino Villarini

PresidentMetro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:

Gerad, got a part number list to share?

From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Gerard Dupont <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 8:17 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

Custom scripts that use the cli and snmp. For our latest build we are trying Ikarus. (Ikarus has the functionality, but I hate the web interface. Trying to get them to redesign it for us.)





Gino Villarini

PresidentMetro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 12:39 AM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
What tools are you using for management?

On Mar 8, 2017 10:01 PM, "Gerard Dupont III" <[email protected]> wrote:
Chris,

Nothing I have requires any additional fees. I'm not using their management system and I don't have any support at all. Yes, from a seller we originally found on Alibaba.

Gerard

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:05 PM Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote:
Gerard,
Looking at Baltic's website they seem to sell several software licenses for this ZTE GPON equipment. Like $50 per PON Port license, $5.50 per ONT, etc. Also $2100 for some server software. Are these required? Are you buying them on AliBaba? Or does it somehow work without the licenscing/server software?

Thanks
Chris

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Gerard Dupont III <[email protected]> wrote:
That's the chassis. Then add the GTGH 16 port line card or the GTGO 8 port card.

We use the Huawei ETP4830-A1 power supply and a string of telco batteries or you can replace one of the SMXA supervisor/uplink cards with a PRAM and do AC directly inside the C320.

There are slight differences between these parts. For example, the SMXA uplink card has different subcards. One is 10G and other is just 1G. Card SMXA subcard UCDC/3 is what you want for 10G. Same for the ETP4830-A1, one of the subcards has ethernet and the other 2 models only have RS232/RS485.


On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Jason McKemie <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Is something like this a smaller version of what you're using?

https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-ZTE-OLT-ZXA10-Mini-Device_60221381720.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.zODsrR&s=p <https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-ZTE-OLT-ZXA10-Mini-Device_60221381720.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.zODsrR&s=p>

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
Ok, so my keyboard makes me look drunk Gerard says...

I've got 4 chassis's no problem, all with Class C optics.  LOL!

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
I've to 4 chassis so far and never a problem. Not buying Alphion, ZTE.

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Paul Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
Interesting …. do they work ok?

I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more than that. I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total junk in my opinion - some people like it .. not my thing.


On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm importing direct from China. 16Port OLT with Class Optics and Power Supply for $3200. ONT's for $25. PLC's from $2-10 depending on the split. Check Alibaba.

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote:
Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in another OLT if needed.

On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1. The company I just got off the ground did 16x1.

On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote:
AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets.


Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future.


I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?


The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.


AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But again, lots of power is required.


From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON


Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change. All the splitters etc still work. That will give everyone on the PON 312.5 Mbps symmetrical all at the same time. So oversubscribing 3:1 you could sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom.


From: Carlos Alcantar

Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM

To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON


to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.



Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <tel:%28415%29%20376-3314> / [email protected] / http://www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>


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From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of George Skorup <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON


I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones and watching Netflix.

The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports. There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god, lets fix this now! We'll see what happens.

Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll build it.

On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Alphion does, yes.


On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

What kind of costs are you talking?
Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?

Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
-----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:39 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small deployments?









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