Gerard -

Thanks for the information, what is the pricing like on that software?

On Thursday, March 9, 2017, Gerard Dupont III <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jason,
>
> No there isn't a web interface for what I have. I don't know what's
> available from ZTE USA.
>
> I'm testing a third party web based management software called Ikarus.
> http://www.ztegpon.com/index.php?page=ikarus
>
> Gerard
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Jason McKemie <
> [email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
>> I received an email.
>>
>> So there is no web-based administration? Command line would suffice if
>> that was available, but I'm not interested in writing my own management
>> system at this juncture.
>>
>> Looking at the numbers I still feel that active is more suited to my
>> deployment unless I needed to shoehorn a group of customers onto limited
>> fiber.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2017, Gerard Dupont III <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>
>>> 1xC320 Chassis
>>> 1xSMXA/3 10G main control board (SMXA/1 for 1G uplinks only)
>>> 1xPRAM AC Power Supply/battery charger board
>>> 1xGTGH 16port OLT board
>>> 16xC++ OLT SFP Modules
>>> 1xFan tray
>>> +Power Cords
>>>
>>> This leaves a free slot which you can install a 16 port GPON or EPON
>>> board or a 24 port SFP board for 48 AE customers using CSFP modules.
>>>
>>> If you already have +/- 48volt available, you can get a second SMXA
>>> instead of the PRAM and have redundant control boards and more uplink
>>> capacity.
>>>
>>> Did anyone else get an email from a ZTE sales rep after posting on this
>>> thread?
>>>
>>> Gerard
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gerad, got a part number list to share?
>>>>
>>>> From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Gerard Dupont <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 8:17 AM
>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>
>>>> Custom scripts that use the cli and snmp. For our latest build we are
>>>> trying Ikarus. (Ikarus has the functionality, but I hate the web interface.
>>>> Trying to get them to redesign it for us.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>>> President
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 12:39 AM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What tools are you using for management?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 8, 2017 10:01 PM, "Gerard Dupont III" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing I have requires any additional fees. I'm not using their
>>>>>> management system and I don't have any support at all. Yes, from a seller
>>>>>> we originally found on Alibaba.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:05 PM Chris Fabien <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> Gerard,
>>>>>>> Looking at Baltic's website they seem to sell several software
>>>>>>> licenses for this ZTE GPON equipment. Like $50 per PON Port license, 
>>>>>>> $5.50
>>>>>>> per ONT, etc. Also $2100 for some server software. Are these required? 
>>>>>>> Are
>>>>>>> you buying them on AliBaba? Or does it somehow work without the
>>>>>>> licenscing/server software?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Gerard Dupont III <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's the chassis. Then add the GTGH 16 port line card or the GTGO
>>>>>>>> 8 port card.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We use the Huawei ETP4830-A1 power supply and a string of telco
>>>>>>>> batteries or you can replace one of the SMXA supervisor/uplink cards 
>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>> PRAM and do AC directly inside the C320.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are slight differences between these parts. For example, the
>>>>>>>> SMXA uplink card has different subcards. One is 10G and other is just 
>>>>>>>> 1G.
>>>>>>>> Card SMXA subcard UCDC/3 is what you want for 10G. Same for the 
>>>>>>>> ETP4830-A1,
>>>>>>>> one of the subcards has ethernet and the other 2 models only have
>>>>>>>> RS232/RS485.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Jason McKemie <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is something like this a smaller version of what you're using?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-ZTE-O
>>>>>>>>> LT-ZXA10-Mini-Device_60221381720.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.
>>>>>>>>> zODsrR&s=p
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so my keyboard makes me look drunk Gerard says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've got 4 chassis's no problem, all with Class C optics.  LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've to 4 chassis so far and never a problem.  Not buying
>>>>>>>>>>> Alphion, ZTE.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Paul Stewart <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting …. do they work ok?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff …
>>>>>>>>>>>> considerably more than that.  I did look at some DWDM stuff from 
>>>>>>>>>>>> China and
>>>>>>>>>>>> it was total junk in my opinion - some people like it .. not my 
>>>>>>>>>>>> thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm importing direct from China.  16Port OLT with Class Optics
>>>>>>>>>>>> and Power Supply for $3200.  ONT's for $25.  PLC's from $2-10 
>>>>>>>>>>>> depending on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the split.  Check Alibaba.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> throw in another OLT if needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deployment was 64x1. The company I just got off the ground did 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16x1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cabinets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which might cause some re-splicing down the road if you want 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> super high FDX.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can still supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carry that much on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essentially backwards compatible with GPON if your neighborhood 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short like mine. But again, lots of power is required.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change.  All the splitters etc still work.  That will give 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PON 312.5 Mbps symmetrical all at the same time.  So 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oversubscribing 3:1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you could sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headroom.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Carlos Alcantar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released this year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <%28415%29%20376-3314> /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] / http://www.race.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Af <[email protected]> on behalf of George Skorup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cell phones and watching Netflix.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and turn up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every night.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FDX. They just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ports.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of god,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets fix this now! We'll see what happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neighborhood of rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine. They "want more speed" and if they're willing to put up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some cash for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, then we'll build it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alphion does, yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What kind of costs are you talking?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:39 PM To: [email protected] ;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AE this time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deployed the AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used for small deployments?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
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