No Erps, that's a Extreme Networks standard anyway. On Mar 28, 2017 3:18 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Interesting in knowing if the uplink will do erps rings. > > *From:* Gino Villarini > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2017 2:16 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] the unicorn is here! was: Small Scale PON > > > > From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of PE R <[email protected] > > > Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, March 27, 2017 at 7:52 PM > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON > > OLT subscriber ranges can actually range to 512 (vs 256) per OLT or > higher, or, mix with XGS in the same shelf. > > > > *Gino Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 5:06 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON > > Put it this way, for each connection on AE you have two SFP optics and a > port on a switch. You also probably want to battery back that. > > For gpon you just push your 8 or 16 or 32 subs to a splitter that can fit > inside someone's pocket and then single strand to your OLT with your non- > $800 or so from what I remember Calix Pon optic :P > > Battery back the OLT, sure, but that's anywhere from 64 to 256 subs per, > and a lot lower battery requirements. > > I think your Calix experience has really skewed you to what's out there, > to be fair. > > On Mar 27, 2017 4:58 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes and no. Pretty much the same amount of fiber depending on where you > locate the splitters or switches. > > On AE you battery back the switch. > On GPON you battery back the OLT/OIM. > > At the remote cabinet, you either have a cheap switch and SFPs. > -or- > You have an expensive OLT/OIM and splitter. > > > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 3:53 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON > > AE requires a lot more electronics and optics. And fiber. And battery > backup. Etc. > > On Mar 27, 2017 4:33 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Years ago, there was a break even point on active vs PON. If you had 16 > or more in an area that could take a PON it was worth doing the PON. > But that was comparing Calix AE vs Calix PON. If you do AE like Sterling > I don't think PON is ever cost effective compared to Calix PON. > > With PON you still have to have a drop to each home. The cost of the > cable is in the placement, not in the cable itself. > So the question is, where do you place the splitter vs where do you place > the switch and SFPs. Personally, I would do it Sterling style on new > greenfield. The ONLY reason I do it with the expensive PON is we are a > regulated common carrier with provider of last resort obligations. I have > to give POTS that is battery backed up, legally required to do this. > > Cannot risk a 911 call not going through due to a power outage etc. > Cannot trust the customer to not unplug a UPS. > > -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON > > Yeah, so PON vs AE was actually the next research project for me to > tackle. > > It seems like there ought to be savings with PON because of lower fiber > count.....lower fiber count ought to lead to smaller/cheaper enclosures. > Less junk at the head end too. I haven't gotten that far yet, but I > was thinking I might "scrimp" with PON. You're saying maybe not? > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: 3/27/2017 4:54:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON > > I would be worried that it will go the way of some of their other ideas. > Cheap... you get what you pay for. > > FTTH, I would rather pay more and know it will be solid and be around in > the years to come. > Not an area where you want to scrimp. If you want to scrimp go active > ethernet. > > -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON > > Well....I have to build with what's available today. If I delay to wait > for the next hot product, I'll always be waiting. > > Besides, I honestly don't know what Ubiquiti brings to the table that > other vendors don't. I suppose it will be cost competitive, but that's > less important to me than having it just work. > > -Adam > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Jon Langeler" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: 3/27/2017 2:52:03 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON > > With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > > I asked the Alphion sales rep about this. He says the optics are coded, > yes. As far as mixing ONT from one vendor with an OLT from another he said > in essence GPON is a standard, but it isn't usually tested across vendors > so whether it works fine, works with bugs, or doesn't work at all is going > to be a matter of chance. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON > > No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with GPON. > > Jared > > > > > > >
