Nope... On Mar 28, 2017 5:38 PM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Huh ist it G8032? Even Planet Sw have it > > From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Reynolds < > [email protected]> > Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 4:35 PM > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the unicorn is here! was: Small Scale PON > > No Erps, that's a Extreme Networks standard anyway. > > > > *Gino Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > On Mar 28, 2017 3:18 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Interesting in knowing if the uplink will do erps rings. >> >> *From:* Gino Villarini >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2017 2:16 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] the unicorn is here! was: Small Scale PON >> >> >> >> From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of PE R < >> [email protected]> >> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, March 27, 2017 at 7:52 PM >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >> OLT subscriber ranges can actually range to 512 (vs 256) per OLT or >> higher, or, mix with XGS in the same shelf. >> >> >> >> *Gino Villarini* >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 5:06 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >> Put it this way, for each connection on AE you have two SFP optics and a >> port on a switch. You also probably want to battery back that. >> >> For gpon you just push your 8 or 16 or 32 subs to a splitter that can fit >> inside someone's pocket and then single strand to your OLT with your non- >> $800 or so from what I remember Calix Pon optic :P >> >> Battery back the OLT, sure, but that's anywhere from 64 to 256 subs per, >> and a lot lower battery requirements. >> >> I think your Calix experience has really skewed you to what's out there, >> to be fair. >> >> On Mar 27, 2017 4:58 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Yes and no. Pretty much the same amount of fiber depending on where you >> locate the splitters or switches. >> >> On AE you battery back the switch. >> On GPON you battery back the OLT/OIM. >> >> At the remote cabinet, you either have a cheap switch and SFPs. >> -or- >> You have an expensive OLT/OIM and splitter. >> >> >> >> *From:* Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 3:53 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >> AE requires a lot more electronics and optics. And fiber. And battery >> backup. Etc. >> >> On Mar 27, 2017 4:33 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Years ago, there was a break even point on active vs PON. If you had 16 >> or more in an area that could take a PON it was worth doing the PON. >> But that was comparing Calix AE vs Calix PON. If you do AE like Sterling >> I don't think PON is ever cost effective compared to Calix PON. >> >> With PON you still have to have a drop to each home. The cost of the >> cable is in the placement, not in the cable itself. >> So the question is, where do you place the splitter vs where do you place >> the switch and SFPs. Personally, I would do it Sterling style on new >> greenfield. The ONLY reason I do it with the expensive PON is we are a >> regulated common carrier with provider of last resort obligations. I have >> to give POTS that is battery backed up, legally required to do this. >> >> Cannot risk a 911 call not going through due to a power outage etc. >> Cannot trust the customer to not unplug a UPS. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett >> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:11 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >> Yeah, so PON vs AE was actually the next research project for me to >> tackle. >> >> It seems like there ought to be savings with PON because of lower fiber >> count.....lower fiber count ought to lead to smaller/cheaper enclosures. >> Less junk at the head end too. I haven't gotten that far yet, but I >> was thinking I might "scrimp" with PON. You're saying maybe not? >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: 3/27/2017 4:54:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >> I would be worried that it will go the way of some of their other ideas. >> Cheap... you get what you pay for. >> >> FTTH, I would rather pay more and know it will be solid and be around in >> the years to come. >> Not an area where you want to scrimp. If you want to scrimp go active >> ethernet. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett >> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:56 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >> Well....I have to build with what's available today. If I delay to wait >> for the next hot product, I'll always be waiting. >> >> Besides, I honestly don't know what Ubiquiti brings to the table that >> other vendors don't. I suppose it will be cost competitive, but that's >> less important to me than having it just work. >> >> -Adam >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Jon Langeler" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: 3/27/2017 2:52:03 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >> With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait >> >> Jon Langeler >> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I asked the Alphion sales rep about this. He says the optics are coded, >> yes. As far as mixing ONT from one vendor with an OLT from another he said >> in essence GPON is a standard, but it isn't usually tested across vendors >> so whether it works fine, works with bugs, or doesn't work at all is going >> to be a matter of chance. >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >> No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with GPON. >> >> Jared >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
