Are you willing to work a full time crew management job for free?

The costs include all crew salaries, construction equipment and management to 
keep crew busy/around.

No management and profit, no crew.

If you are adding it to your existing company, then you need to add expense to 
manage it.

Even the good experienced construction crews require management overhead 
expense, which is generally where the “profit” goes.

It apparently doesn’t work to just forward them an email with the site plan and 
come away a few months later with a job well done, lol!

Also, tons and tons of insurance, bonding and liability to work in most 
areas/towns.

Overhead to manage the people and paperwork involved in bonding and long term 
relationship management in each area/city.



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

But I do not want to pay them to make a profit doing this.  I want it done at 
cost.

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:52 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

There are companies that already do this. They contract for CenturyLink, AT&T, 
Time Warner, etc. We hired one to do all of our outside plant.

Lots of 💰 to be made if you do it right and have a good crew. They always hire 
local labor for ditch digging, but their splice crews and management are 
continuous.

On Mar 30, 2017 12:50 PM, "Chuck McCown" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I am considering building a construction team that can drop into a small town 
or large subdivision, install fiber and move on.
Something where I own the construction equipment and keep labor costs low.  
Want to identify the minimum equipment necessary and the methods of 
construction to provide the best value.

HDD with mud truck
Do we need a vacuum excavator?
Mini excavator
One of these drop plows.  Whoever said their guy can do 5-8 homes per day.... 
yeah that one (to lazy to search who it was).

What to use for hand holes?
Plastic hand holes?

What are the best values for splice cases?

Perhaps try UBNT GPON.  Can always throw it in the ditch if it does not work.

So a best practices/FTTH in a box schedule of equipment and methods is needed.  
From that I will look at the ROI needed from the equipment as well as the labor 
costs to estimate the costs to do a subdivision.

From that we will look at the ROI on a competitive ARPU to see if an area is 
worth doing.
I keep getting asked to do this, so I guess I better do this.

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