I am doing all that now, but since we are doing it for a rate of return public utility, being super efficient is not really in our best interests. We can afford to do things the expensive way.
But there are areas that have asked us to extend service to. For those areas doing it the most cost effective method is what I am looking at there. And yes, would provide the full time management for free. Probably allow them to fly under current bonding. My current crew gets a PDF of the design and next month it is done. Just want to replicate that with minimum people and equipment using the best value methods and materials. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team Are you willing to work a full time crew management job for free? The costs include all crew salaries, construction equipment and management to keep crew busy/around. No management and profit, no crew. If you are adding it to your existing company, then you need to add expense to manage it. Even the good experienced construction crews require management overhead expense, which is generally where the “profit” goes. It apparently doesn’t work to just forward them an email with the site plan and come away a few months later with a job well done, lol! Also, tons and tons of insurance, bonding and liability to work in most areas/towns. Overhead to manage the people and paperwork involved in bonding and long term relationship management in each area/city. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team But I do not want to pay them to make a profit doing this. I want it done at cost. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team There are companies that already do this. They contract for CenturyLink, AT&T, Time Warner, etc. We hired one to do all of our outside plant. Lots of 💰 to be made if you do it right and have a good crew. They always hire local labor for ditch digging, but their splice crews and management are continuous. On Mar 30, 2017 12:50 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: I am considering building a construction team that can drop into a small town or large subdivision, install fiber and move on. Something where I own the construction equipment and keep labor costs low. Want to identify the minimum equipment necessary and the methods of construction to provide the best value. HDD with mud truck Do we need a vacuum excavator? Mini excavator One of these drop plows. Whoever said their guy can do 5-8 homes per day.... yeah that one (to lazy to search who it was). What to use for hand holes? Plastic hand holes? What are the best values for splice cases? Perhaps try UBNT GPON. Can always throw it in the ditch if it does not work. So a best practices/FTTH in a box schedule of equipment and methods is needed. From that I will look at the ROI needed from the equipment as well as the labor costs to estimate the costs to do a subdivision. From that we will look at the ROI on a competitive ARPU to see if an area is worth doing. I keep getting asked to do this, so I guess I better do this.
