Yeah, some high point not on residential property I guess.

We don't have a lot of utility poles in some areas, so this is going to be a 
challenge.

I don't like maintaining tower infrastructure, so some sort of deal with the 
power company for pole space or with the city or HOA for space and power is 
probably best.

I remember our most troublesome 'towers' were the ones on private property.

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 11:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

I'm thinking you put the AP on the utility pole.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Mitch Koep" <af...@abwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/4/2017 12:18:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

>What happens if the house with AP quits service??
>
>You loose the rest that are connected ??
>
>Tried that did not go well LOL
>
>So now use power poles or small pipe masts (30 to 40')
>
>
>On 04/04/2017 11:08 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>Well, Utah...
>>
>>Like to hear reports from the rainy states.
>>
>>60 GHz is .19" wavelength or about .095" half wave or .0475" quarter 
>>wave.
>>
>>Rain drops can get up to .150" So they fall in the ranges of quarter 
>>to full wave length sizes.
>>
>>Moreover they will serve as miniature dielectric lenses.  And then 
>>there is oxygen absorption and water absorption.
>>Even CO2, and fog causes problems.
>>
>>But should be noise free and you can certainly reuse frequencies all 
>>over because it will not go far enough to interfere if done right.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:59 AM
>>To: af@afmug.com
>>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless
>>
>>I have an Ignitenet PtP link that is half a mile that doesn't fade in 
>>the rain. I'm sure it will if it gets really heavy. There has been 
>>rain, but not heavy rain since I installed this link.
>>
>>Thank you,
>>Brett A Mansfield
>>
>>>On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Vivint and Google are both saying they are doing this.  No idea what 
>>>kid of radios they are using.  I talked to a couple of Vivint locals 
>>>at the AnimalFarm show.  They both claim to be getting 1 Gbps at 
>>>their home with the millimeter radio.  I think it was 60 GHz.  I 
>>>asked them if it stays up during rain and snow.  They claimed it did.
>>>  Assuming the path was a quarter mile or less.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message----- From: Sterling Jacobson
>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:47 AM
>>>To: 'af@afmug.com'
>>>Subject: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless
>>>
>>>Where are we with this concept as a WISP industry?
>>>
>>>Let's say I have $200k to invest and already have mainline fiber in 
>>>or near to the neighborhoods.
>>>
>>>What equipment do I buy to get the best speeds to residential and 
>>>small business customers?
>>>
>>>Is there equipment in the 60GHz or similar bands that are for 
>>>sale/ready for use?
>>>
>>>Is the topology still to connect a house or two in the area with 
>>>fiber and LOS to everyone else and deploy PtMP?
>>>
>>>Thoughts?
>>
>>
>
>-- Mitch Koep
>
>A Better Wireless
>218-851-8689 cell
>

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