There are at least a couple ways to do a "hybrid" system, depending on the situation.
One is getting service to a remote community that is buried in trees. Use microwave to get to the neighborhood, and fiber to get around the neighborhood. The second is a neighborhood that isn't so "remote, and doesn't have that many trees. Use fiber to get to the neighborhood, and wireless to get the service around the neighborhood. We have a few neighborhood that are buried within a grove of 300' (plus) redwood trees. Impossible to get any decent kind of wireless service in those. However, we also have some of the second variety. -bp On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm thinking you put the AP on the utility pole. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Mitch Koep" <af...@abwisp.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 4/4/2017 12:18:42 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless > > What happens if the house with AP quits service?? >> >> You loose the rest that are connected ?? >> >> Tried that did not go well LOL >> >> So now use power poles or small pipe masts (30 to 40') >> >> >> On 04/04/2017 11:08 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> Well, Utah... >>> >>> Like to hear reports from the rainy states. >>> >>> 60 GHz is .19" wavelength or about .095" half wave or .0475" quarter >>> wave. >>> >>> Rain drops can get up to .150" So they fall in the ranges of quarter to >>> full wave length sizes. >>> >>> Moreover they will serve as miniature dielectric lenses. And then there >>> is oxygen absorption and water absorption. >>> Even CO2, and fog causes problems. >>> >>> But should be noise free and you can certainly reuse frequencies all >>> over because it will not go far enough to interfere if done right. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:59 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless >>> >>> I have an Ignitenet PtP link that is half a mile that doesn't fade in >>> the rain. I'm sure it will if it gets really heavy. There has been rain, >>> but not heavy rain since I installed this link. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Brett A Mansfield >>> >>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Vivint and Google are both saying they are doing this. No idea what >>>> kid of radios they are using. I talked to a couple of Vivint locals at the >>>> AnimalFarm show. They both claim to be getting 1 Gbps at their home with >>>> the millimeter radio. I think it was 60 GHz. I asked them if it stays up >>>> during rain and snow. They claimed it did. Assuming the path was a >>>> quarter mile or less. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sterling Jacobson >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:47 AM >>>> To: 'af@afmug.com' >>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless >>>> >>>> Where are we with this concept as a WISP industry? >>>> >>>> Let's say I have $200k to invest and already have mainline fiber in or >>>> near to the neighborhoods. >>>> >>>> What equipment do I buy to get the best speeds to residential and small >>>> business customers? >>>> >>>> Is there equipment in the 60GHz or similar bands that are for >>>> sale/ready for use? >>>> >>>> Is the topology still to connect a house or two in the area with fiber >>>> and LOS to everyone else and deploy PtMP? >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- Mitch Koep >> >> A Better Wireless >> 218-851-8689 cell >> >> > -- -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com