I don't know about your power company, but ours has two attachment
application processes....one for lines and one for antennas. So at
least around here it's something that's been thought of.
Putting in your own pole is also pretty cheap if it's a normal
height....like a 50 footer (42' AGL). The breaking point here is either
60 or 70'....I can't remember. After a certain length we need a permit
from the DOT to transport it and a crane to install it.
I think like Mitch I'm also biased against putting stuff on houses. I
just see too many ways for it to go sideways.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 4/4/2017 1:19:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless
Yeah, some high point not on residential property I guess.
We don't have a lot of utility poles in some areas, so this is going to
be a challenge.
I don't like maintaining tower infrastructure, so some sort of deal
with the power company for pole space or with the city or HOA for space
and power is probably best.
I remember our most troublesome 'towers' were the ones on private
property.
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 11:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless
I'm thinking you put the AP on the utility pole.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Mitch Koep" <af...@abwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/4/2017 12:18:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless
What happens if the house with AP quits service??
You loose the rest that are connected ??
Tried that did not go well LOL
So now use power poles or small pipe masts (30 to 40')
On 04/04/2017 11:08 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Well, Utah...
Like to hear reports from the rainy states.
60 GHz is .19" wavelength or about .095" half wave or .0475" quarter
wave.
Rain drops can get up to .150" So they fall in the ranges of quarter
to full wave length sizes.
Moreover they will serve as miniature dielectric lenses. And then
there is oxygen absorption and water absorption.
Even CO2, and fog causes problems.
But should be noise free and you can certainly reuse frequencies all
over because it will not go far enough to interfere if done right.
-----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless
I have an Ignitenet PtP link that is half a mile that doesn't fade in
the rain. I'm sure it will if it gets really heavy. There has been
rain, but not heavy rain since I installed this link.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Vivint and Google are both saying they are doing this. No idea what
kid of radios they are using. I talked to a couple of Vivint locals
at the AnimalFarm show. They both claim to be getting 1 Gbps at
their home with the millimeter radio. I think it was 60 GHz. I
asked them if it stays up during rain and snow. They claimed it
did.
Assuming the path was a quarter mile or less.
-----Original Message----- From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:47 AM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless
Where are we with this concept as a WISP industry?
Let's say I have $200k to invest and already have mainline fiber in
or near to the neighborhoods.
What equipment do I buy to get the best speeds to residential and
small business customers?
Is there equipment in the 60GHz or similar bands that are for
sale/ready for use?
Is the topology still to connect a house or two in the area with
fiber and LOS to everyone else and deploy PtMP?
Thoughts?
-- Mitch Koep
A Better Wireless
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