We have received a bunch of new 3.5 GHz 450i APs.   5 of these were integrated 
configurations, but one was connectorized.  There is a noticeable gap in the 
middle of the top where the faceplate seals to the backing very similar to the 
pictures shared here, but it is not as dramatic.   It is difficult to determine 
if that is merely a cosmetic anomaly or actually extends past the seal and will 
allow water into the case.   Based on the conversation here, we are likely 
going to seal the entire seam around the unit the same way we do the 
connectors, vinyl tape covered with Monkey tape.   Anyone see any issues with 
that?

We haven’t looked at the integrated ones yet, those are up next for inspection.

Thanks,

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From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Hopkins
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 3:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Yes.

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On 4/20/2017 12:09 PM, George Skorup wrote:
So just to be clear, you had a second radio like this that was new and never 
deployed?

We've had our share of water intrusion issues with regular 450 APs. Cases where 
it was clearly a manufacturing/assembly issue, Cambium has made it right 
regardless of warranty status.
On 4/20/2017 1:42 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:
Cambium has reached out to me and are going to look into this issue on their 
end. They are also making it right by us and replacing both units. I have no 
reason to believe that this is a widespread problem. We use a ton of Cambium 
equipment and for the most part we are very happy with it's performance. I 
simply wanted to help the community by spreading awareness of a potential issue 
that is easy to spot before being deployed. Thank you Matt and Chuck at Cambium 
for helping out.

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On 4/20/2017 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Yeah, well, that is why AFMUG exists...

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:05 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

I constantly bitch about cambium not being forthright about a product flaw, but 
they do tend to ultimately make things right, even on out of warranty products. 
i think it may depend on the engineer involved though

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Adam Moffett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Do you guys think the intrusion is from a bad seal in the housing, or is it 
coming in through the cables?

If the unit doesn't have a breather hole equalize air pressure then it can suck 
water through the cable like a straw.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Roland Houin" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "afmug" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: 4/20/2017 10:55:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

we had a 450 fail due to water intrusion too.
it was in warranty,
at first they didn't want to cover under warranty, (said we didn't weatherseal 
the connectors).
after a bit of complaining they did cover it.

Roland



> We too had a similar issue. 450AP full of water. We took it apart and drained
it and let sit dry. The AP booted up just fine but failed a few days later on
the bench. We got the same response. "Out of warranty".

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Matt Hopkins 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

We had one of many 450i up on a tower for a little over a year and one day it
was just offline without any warning. We are located in Northwestern Oregon so
we get plenty of rain. Upon investigation the metal case of the radio was not
sealed all the way and water slowly seeped in. The unit was full to the top
with water. By this time Cambium stated that it was out of warranty and we were
burnt. I don't know how many of these units we have in the air are affected.
This one is the only one that has died in such a fashion so far. Prior to this
I wasn't really inspecting these for this issue and would have thought nothing
of it. The seal must be farther inside, right?

Today I was unpacking one new in box and noticed the very same issue, since now
I look for this. We only use the connectorized version so I don't know if this
issue is contained or morewidespread. Just wanted to throw out a heads up to
everyone to keep an eye out for this since I got exactly nowhere with Cambium.

I am not trying to pick on Cambium, just bring a recurring issue to light.

This is a pic of the fried one that was in service for a year:

This is a pic of the brand new one I took out of the box today next to one that
looks fine:

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