It is done all the time, but if an indian tribe is involved there are.... 
complications.....

I don’t think Utah Lake would be an issue.  I had a permit for the Great Salt 
Lake at onetime but we didn’t build it.

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:10 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Underwater fiber

lmao, hes on crack
ask the Dakota Access folks about going under a body of water

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  All Navigable waters of the US.

  Big deal about repealing a former administrations work that made this rule 
apply to seasonal streams too.
  Which extended it to animal watering ponds in the midwest etc etc.

  -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
  Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:01 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Underwater fiber

  Does Army Corp of Engineers have jurisdiction on any body of water or
  just that one?  I was recently talking to someone about HD Boring under
  a river.  He ended going through an existing conduit on a bridge
  instead, but he seemed to think going under the river wouldn't be a big
  deal.

  .....that was obviously not 12 miles wide.  More like 1200'.


  ------ Original Message ------
  From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: 4/27/2017 5:22:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Underwater fiber


    Army corp of engineers has jurisdiction.  You will probably have to bury it 
4 feet deep.  They use jet plows for these underwater jobs.

    You need armored cable.  Normal FO cable will float.

    -----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
    Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 3:07 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [AFMUG] Underwater fiber

    I am working on getting a link over a lake that is 12 miles wide. The lake 
is only 8 feet deep (Utah Lake in Utah County Utah).  I don't really have the 
means to run Fiber at the bottom of this lake, but it made me curious how 
someone would go about it? What kind of cable would be required, how would it 
be permitted, is this a common practice, etc? I just wanted to get people's 
thoughts on it.

    Thank you,
    Brett A Mansfield



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