As far as I know WISPA has not been talking about it.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

Are any WISPA representatives on this issue to get clarification of impact, 
maybe some resources by region

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 9:39 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  The whole company and everything we do is not covered.  That is how I read 
it.  

  Not covered:
  Informational Note to (4) and (5): Examples of utilities may include those 
entities that are typically designated or recognized by governmental law or 
regulation by public service/utility commissions and that install, operate, and 
maintain electric supply (such as generation, transmission, or distribution 
systems) or communications systems (such as telephone, CATV,
  Internet, satellite, or data services). 




  From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
  Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 1:42 AM
  To: af 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

  Doesn't the note only apply to this exemption: 

  "(4) Installations of communications equipment under the exclusive control of 
communications utilities located outdoors or in building spaces used 
exclusively for such installations."



  So your CO or NOC would be fine.  Probably a phone room as well.   Same with 
pedestals, outdoor cabinents, and I'd argue the ONT on the outside of a 
building.


  Hanging an indoor ONT/NID in someone's garage wouldn't be "in building spaces 
used exclusively for such installations".  Neither would an installation in an 
office space, etc....   





  On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

    I read it as our entity is not covered.  So everything we do.  

    From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
    Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:07 PM
    To: af 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

    The way I read this,  an outdoor ONT is exempt. ..  an indoor one would not 
be? 

    On May 11, 2017 4:31 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:



      NFPA 70: DOCUMENT SCOPE

      90.2 Scope. 
      (A) Covered. This Code covers the installation and removal of electrical 
conductors, equipment, and raceways; signaling and communications conductors, 
equipment, and raceways; and optical fiber cables and raceways for the 
following:
      (1) Public and private premises, including buildings, structures, mobile 
homes, recreational vehicles, and floating buildings
      (2) Yards, lots, parking lots, carnivals, and industrial substations
      (3) Installations of conductors and equipment that connect to the supply 
of electricity
      (4) Installations used by the electric utility, such as office buildings, 
warehouses, garages, machine shops, and recreational buildings, that are not an 
integral part of a generating plant, substation, or control center
      (B) Not Covered. This Code does not cover the following:
      (1) Installations in ships, watercraft other than floating buildings, 
railway rolling stock, aircraft, or automotive vehicles other than mobile homes 
and recreational vehicles
      Informational Note: Although the scope of this Code indicates that the 
Code does not cover installations in ships, portions of this Code are 
incorporated by reference into Title 46, Code of
      Federal Regulations, Parts 110–113.
      (2) Installations underground in mines and self-propelled mobile surface 
mining machinery and its attendant electrical trailing cable
      (3) Installations of railways for generation, transformation, 
transmission, energy storage, or distribution of power used exclusively for 
operation of rolling stock or installations used exclusively for signaling and 
communications purposes
      (4) Installations of communications equipment under the exclusive control 
of communications utilities located outdoors or in building spaces used 
exclusively for such installations
      (5) Installations under the exclusive control of an electric utility 
where such installations
      a. Consist of service drops or service laterals, and associated metering, 
or
      b. Are on property owned or leased by the electric utility for the 
purpose of communications, metering, generation, control, transformation, 
transmission, energy storage, or distribution of electric energy, or
      c. Are located in legally established easements or rights-of-way, or
      d. Are located by other written agreements either designated by or 
recognized by public service commissions, utility commissions, or other 
regulatory agencies having jurisdiction for such installations. These written 
agreements shall be limited to installations for the purpose of communications, 
metering, generation, control, transformation, transmission, energy storage, or 
distribution of electric energy where legally established easements or 
rights-of-way cannot be obtained. These installations shall be limited to 
federal lands, Native American reservations through the U.S. Department of the 
Interior Bureau of Indian Affairs, military bases, lands controlled by port 
authorities and state agencies and departments, and lands owned by railroads.
      Informational Note to (4) and (5): Examples of utilities may include 
those entities that are typically designated or recognized by governmental law 
or regulation by public service/utility commissions and that install, operate, 
and maintain electric supply (such as generation, transmission, or distribution 
systems) or communications systems (such as telephone, CATV,
      Internet, satellite, or data services). Utilities may be subject to 
compliance with codes and standards covering their regulated activities as 
adopted under governmental law or regulation.
      Additional information can be found through consultation with the 
appropriate governmental bodies, such as state regulatory commissions, the 
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, and the Federal Communications Commission.
      (C) Special Permission. The authority having jurisdiction for enforcing 
this Code may grant exception for the installation of conductors and equipment 
that are not under the exclusive control of the electric utilities and are used 
to connect the electric utility supply system to the service conductors of the 
premises served, provided such installations are outside a building or 
structure, or terminate inside at a readily accessible location nearest the 
point of entrance of the service conductors.





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