Ahhh the great memories... That was my first computer ! Faisal Imtiaz
> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:15:05 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF > Timex Sinclair ZX81 > From: Mike Hammett > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF > Don't use a Newton to admin it? > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > Midwest Internet Exchange > The Brothers WISP > From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:10:44 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF > Been a few years since I used ePMP anything. The UI used to be dreadfully > slow. > From: Dave > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:08 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF > +1 > On 05/22/2017 03:22 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> The power requirement is going to limit you to wifi type stuff I think. >> ePMP in PTP mode. You can get the itty bitty Force180 for $85 each and in PTP >> mode at that range you'll have somewhere near 200mbps aggregate. >> I'm sure there are half a dozen Ubiquiti things which will also suffice. The >> example ePMP below is at a range of .559 mile. >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Chuck McCown" < [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: 5/22/2017 4:06:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF >>> Too much power. I don’t want to exceed 20 watts total. So one end of a radio >>> needs to be in the 5-7 watt range. >>> From: Bill Prince >>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:04 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF >>> Then do a 24 GHz system. That can go 2-1/2 miles with 5 nines. Low >>> interference. >>> Will eat around 50 watts at each end though. >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> On 5/22/2017 12:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> Scared of new technology. >>>> Seems a bit too long range for that freq. >>>> Worried about not enough time has elapsed to prove them out. >>>> They sound expensive. >>>> Everybody knows 60 GHz is all absorbed by the oxygen anyhow... >>>> Not sure God would approve... >>>> You all the same normal reasons... >>>> From: Brett A Mansfield >>>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:44 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF >>>> For so little throughput a 5GHz setup would be the cheapest and probably >>>> best >>>> setup. >>>> What keeps you from being a believer of the 60GHz? I can show you the >>>> history of >>>> some of my Ignitenet links that may just change your mind. >>>> Thank you, >>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>> On May 22, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Chuck McCown < [email protected] > wrote: >>>>> Not a believer yet. And we only need 100-250 Mbps max to the homes. >>>>> Actually >>>>> probably more like 50 or 100 Mbps. >>>>> Want it to be simple too. ONT has multiple ethernet ports on it. Just >>>>> extend >>>>> those physical layer 0/1 connections. >>>>> From: Cameron Crum >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:34 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF >>>>> What about a couple of 60GHz links with a single 5GHz AP as a backup? We >>>>> did >>>>> this for a bank that needed to connect two buildings temporarily. Put a >>>>> MT on >>>>> either side that ran IPSEC tunnel over the link with a failover script to >>>>> route >>>>> traffic over the 5 GHz link if the 60 lost more than 50% of it's packets. >>>>> The 5 >>>>> GHz was slower, but they still had connectivity in the even of a heavy >>>>> rain. >>>>> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Chuck McCown < [email protected] > wrote: >>>>>> Still puzzling over how to get ethernet the last 3000 feet. I have fiber >>>>>> to a >>>>>> point along a rural road. The end is about 2000 feet from one home and >>>>>> 3000 >>>>>> feet from another. >>>>>> Was looking at using the existing copper with VDSL line extenders. That >>>>>> was what >>>>>> that week of math problems was all about. I am starting to lean away >>>>>> from that >>>>>> solution because it is old copper. I really want to stop using it. >>>>>> I don’t have a ROW that is legal. The old copper technically is in >>>>>> trespass and >>>>>> the owner of the property is known to be a major PITA. So not sure if I >>>>>> can get >>>>>> permission. Even then, we are talking about 5000 feet of fiber to place. >>>>>> There >>>>>> will be some money involved. >>>>>> Using wireless could be much cheaper. Will have to do a solar install >>>>>> with the >>>>>> ONT and RF gear on a stub pole at the handhole. >>>>>> Not sure what kid of RF. Don’t want to use an AP because I need two >>>>>> layer 2 >>>>>> connections from the ONT. Be more expensive to use an AP anyhow. So two >>>>>> PTP >>>>>> systems. Rock solid, never fail type of system. Noise floor down there is >>>>>> probably pretty low. >>>>>> I could use a pair of rockets etc. Not wanting to lo-ball this, want it >>>>>> to be >>>>>> very solid. >>>>>> What would you use? > --
