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On 05/23/2017 07:56 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
One vote for Force180

Josh Luthman
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On May 23, 2017 8:21 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    FWIW...... the situation described is the exact scenario for a
    Micro-POP.

    There are a number of folks who are currently doing such a setup
    with 60ghz or 24ghz as backhaul and Mimosa A5's for 5ghz PTMP...
    expected thruput is between 150meg to 300meg easily.

    Regards.

    Faisal Imtiaz
    Snappy Internet & Telecom
    7266 SW 48 Street
    Miami, FL 33155
    Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>

    Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> Option 2 or
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        *From: *"Harold Bledsoe" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent: *Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:26:37 AM
        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

        How about 60ghz to the first house and 5ghz to the second
        house and run Trill to create a ring?

        Does using multiple new technologies instead of just one make
        it seem less risky? 😁

        Hal

        On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:47 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Scared of new technology.
            Seems a bit too long range for that freq.
            Worried about not enough time has elapsed to prove them out.
            They sound expensive.
            Everybody knows 60 GHz is all absorbed by the oxygen anyhow...
            Not sure God would approve...
            You all the same normal reasons...
            *From:* Brett A Mansfield
            *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2017 1:44 PM
            *To:* [email protected]
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF
            For so little throughput a 5GHz setup would be the
            cheapest and probably best setup.
            What keeps you from being a believer of the 60GHz? I can
            show you the history of some of my Ignitenet links that
            may just change your mind.

            Thank you,
            Brett A Mansfield

            On May 22, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Chuck McCown
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                Not a believer yet.  And we only need 100-250 Mbps max
                to the homes.  Actually probably more like 50 or 100
                Mbps.
                Want it to be simple too.  ONT has multiple ethernet
                ports on it.  Just extend those physical layer 0/1
                connections.

                *From:* Cameron Crum
                *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2017 1:34 PM
                *To:* [email protected]

                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

                What about a couple of 60GHz links with a single 5GHz
                AP as a backup? We did this for a bank that needed to
                connect two buildings temporarily. Put a MT on either
                side that ran IPSEC tunnel over the link with a
                failover script to route traffic over the 5 GHz link
                if the 60 lost more than 50% of it's packets. The 5
                GHz was slower, but they still had connectivity in the
                even of a heavy rain.

                On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Chuck McCown
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                    Still puzzling over how to get ethernet the last
                    3000 feet.  I have fiber to a point along a rural
                    road. The end is about 2000 feet from one home and
                    3000 feet from another.
                    Was looking at using the existing copper with VDSL
                    line extenders. That was what that week of math
                    problems was all about.  I am starting to lean
away from that solution because it is old copper. I really want to stop using it.
                    I don’t have a ROW that is legal.  The old copper
                    technically is in trespass and the owner of the
                    property is known to be a major PITA. So not sure
                    if I can get permission. Even then, we are talking
                    about 5000 feet of fiber to place. There will be
                    some money involved.
                    Using wireless could be much cheaper.  Will have
                    to do a solar install with the ONT and RF gear on
                    a stub pole at the handhole.
                    Not sure what kid of RF.  Don’t want to use an AP
                    because I need two layer 2 connections from the
                    ONT. Be more expensive to use an AP anyhow.  So
                    two PTP systems.  Rock solid, never fail type of
                    system. Noise floor down there is probably pretty
                    low.
                    I could use a pair of rockets etc. Not wanting to
                    lo-ball this, want it to be very solid.
                    What would you use?

--
        Harold Bledsoe



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