Let's be sure to delineate Kodi from the illegal content plugins. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:38:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? 



FYI, kodi has been hit, the subtitles were hijacked to inject malicious voodoo. 
I use kodi, with exodus for programs I like 
its illegal 
amazon banned them, they will literally destroy your inventory 
facebook banned them 
google is looking at how to ban them 
I just got a raspberry pi 3 to make a dedicated kodi box, I bought a half price 
chineese, one, its a knockoff, probably already infected with something I cant 
remove, but does it matter when I'm putting an app to do illegal stuff with on 
it? 


If somebody says firestick, assume theyre running kodi, and several preloaded 
addons 


kodi is a great avenue for distributed computing (bitcoin mining), botnet, 
general IOT fuckery. 


kodi is and always should be a zero support ISP issue, enforce your AUP TOS 
immediately, they either don't know what theyre doing... or they do, and I'm 
not sure which person is more of a threat to your netblock reputation. The EU 
will ultimately block your netblock, theyre not messing around with kodi, and 
they have some sort of magic to be able to specifically identify kodi traffic, 
my guess is they have an algorithm to identify aggregator traffic 


On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Paul Stewart < [email protected] > wrote: 




A lot of the free content comes from pawned servers and computers that are on 
high speed links …. the paid services are typically dedicated servers rented 
with flat rate bandwidth … at least with that I’ve figured out ... 


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From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:53 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? 


Who is paying for all this bandwidth that the *servers* are providing for 
"ill-legitimate" content? 



On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies < [email protected] > 
wrote: 


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Mark, 

Here is the link I was talking about 

http://blog.skystreamx.com/fix-kodi-buffering/ 

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Thursday, May 25, 2017, 10:52:39 PM, you wrote:         
Kurt, 

I read somewhere that kodi needs about 10-15meg connection to work correctly. 
Not sure if that was for live tv or everything. Think I have the article 
bookmarked at the office. I'll check in the morning and post it if I find it. 

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Thursday, May 25, 2017, 12:50:45 PM, you wrote:         
I am getting more and more calls every week from clients saying that their 
"streaming isn't working." Upon investigating each one of these cases the 
customer always has purchased a "jailbroken" firestick loaded with KODI and 
they are expecting to watch all kinds of movies for free. From what I can tell 
this is very un-reliable compared to just paying for Netflix. Sometimes the 
streams work and sometimes they don't. I basically have been telling customers 
that what their doing is no different than the old satellite days where people 
put the hacked cards into their set top boxes and get all the satellite 
channels for free. But those cards were always getting "zapped" and you were 
constantly having to get new cards and re-program cards so your spending so 
much time dealing with the "un-reliable' TV watching experience that it would 
have just been cheaper to pay for the service legally in the first place. My 
solution for these customers has been to just tell them to pay $10 for Netflix 
and be done with it. 


On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:02 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller < 
[email protected] > wrote: 

        


haven't been able to reach him yet.     
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jeremy 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:26 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? 

Why don't you ask him? 

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:21 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller < [email protected] > 
wrote:  


out of the 250 or so "warnings" received through this morning, about 80% appear 
to be tv shows and random episodes of such tv shows. that is why i was thinking 
kodi. perhaps he browsed around just to see what would work and what wouldn't. 
i've never played with kodi but if this guy has this volume of entertainment on 
his hard drive i would be surprised and would say he has no life. plus he has 
been a customer for a while - he isn't anyone new.... :) 

        
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tim Reichhart 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:18 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? 

with kodi you can download/add on for like utorrent to download movies or you 
can also download exodus.         


-----Original Message----- 
From: "Joe Novak" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Date: 05/25/17 10:14 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? 

To be honest, unless he is using some odd P2P addon for Kodi it's unlikely. 
Most of the addons comb the net for the videos and aggregate the links for you 
to watch on Kodi - which means your not sharing it back. Some kind of popcorn 
time variant which is built on bittorrent is more likely, but I don't know if 
any of those still exist. 


Joe 


On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 9:09 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller < [email protected] > 
wrote:  


we have a customer who literally has gotten no fewer than 150 complaints from 
both fox and ip-echelon ? (sp) in the last 24 hours. 
either he has downloaded half the internet or perhaps he has one of these new 
illegal kodi boxes. 

some of you with more experience than us in dealing with this - is it likely he 
has a kodi box? The alerts seem almost in real time 
but then again, they also seem to be coming after we turned his service off.... 

I know there is a safe harbor provision out there where we could basically put 
on our website any copyright violations must be delivered 
to us in writing and we could basically ignore these.....but we haven't gotten 
that many in the past. 

thoughts? 

thanks 


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