+1..
Its all our fault because were the internet :)
On 05/25/2017 03:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Sure, it's your fault. It's your fault for not arranging the proper
upstreams and peerings for your network.
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*From: *"Chris Wright" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:36:29 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
Why would you even support streaming issues to legitimate sources? Not
your fault if some legitimate service has peering or throughput issues.
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tim Reichhart
*Sent:* Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:06 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
Actually speaking here,
as a provider you really dont have to support kodi and there streaming
issues on the box if you can show that the services work without kodi
and streaming your off the hook on supporting it. With kodi you dont
know what connection or server your connecting to heck it could be
connecting to server in china for all you know then next thing you
know you get DDoS attacked from somebody over seas etc.
I am going to start making my customers sign an waver stating that if
you have jail broken device like andriod box or firestick/tv and using
kodi we will not support any streaming issues you may have with the
service.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Date: 05/25/17 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
I am getting more and more calls every week from clients saying
that their "streaming isn't working." Upon investigating each one
of these cases the customer always has purchased a "jailbroken"
firestick loaded with KODI and they are expecting to watch all
kinds of movies for free. From what I can tell this is very
un-reliable compared to just paying for Netflix. Sometimes the
streams work and sometimes they don't. I basically have been
telling customers that what their doing is no different than the
old satellite days where people put the hacked cards into their
set top boxes and get all the satellite channels for free. But
those cards were always getting "zapped" and you were constantly
having to get new cards and re-program cards so your spending so
much time dealing with the "un-reliable' TV watching experience
that it would have just been cheaper to pay for the service
legally in the first place. My solution for these customers has
been to just tell them to pay $10 for Netflix and be done with it.
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:02 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
haven't been able to reach him yet.
----- Original Message -----
*From:*Jeremy <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:26 AM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
Why don't you ask him?
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:21 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
out of the 250 or so "warnings" received through this morning,
about 80% appear to be tv shows and random episodes of such tv
shows. that is why i was thinking kodi. perhaps he browsed
around just to see what would work and what wouldn't. i've
never played with kodi but if this guy has this volume of
entertainment on his hard drive i would be surprised and would
say he has no life. plus he has been a customer for a while -
he isn't anyone new.... :)
----- Original Message -----
*From:*Tim Reichhart <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:18 AM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
with kodi you can download/add on for like utorrent to
download movies or you can also download exodus.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Joe Novak" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Date: 05/25/17 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
To be honest, unless he is using some odd P2P addon
for Kodi it's unlikely. Most of the addons comb the
net for the videos and aggregate the links for you to
watch on Kodi - which means your not sharing it back.
Some kind of popcorn time variant which is built on
bittorrent is more likely, but I don't know if any of
those still exist.
Joe
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 9:09 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
we have a customer who literally has gotten no fewer
than 150 complaints from both fox and ip-echelon ?
(sp) in the last 24 hours.
either he has downloaded half the internet or perhaps
he has one of these new illegal kodi boxes.
some of you with more experience than us in dealing
with this - is it likely he has a kodi box? The alerts
seem almost in real time
but then again, they also seem to be coming after we
turned his service off....
I know there is a safe harbor provision out there
where we could basically put on our website any
copyright violations must be delivered
to us in writing and we could basically ignore
these.....but we haven't gotten that many in the past.
thoughts?
thanks
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