Why would you even support streaming issues to legitimate sources? Not your fault if some legitimate service has peering or throughput issues.
Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? Actually speaking here, as a provider you really dont have to support kodi and there streaming issues on the box if you can show that the services work without kodi and streaming your off the hook on supporting it. With kodi you dont know what connection or server your connecting to heck it could be connecting to server in china for all you know then next thing you know you get DDoS attacked from somebody over seas etc. I am going to start making my customers sign an waver stating that if you have jail broken device like andriod box or firestick/tv and using kodi we will not support any streaming issues you may have with the service. _____ -----Original Message----- From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 05/25/17 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? I am getting more and more calls every week from clients saying that their "streaming isn't working." Upon investigating each one of these cases the customer always has purchased a "jailbroken" firestick loaded with KODI and they are expecting to watch all kinds of movies for free. >From what I can tell this is very un-reliable compared to just paying for Netflix. Sometimes the streams work and sometimes they don't. I basically have been telling customers that what their doing is no different than the old satellite days where people put the hacked cards into their set top boxes and get all the satellite channels for free. But those cards were always getting "zapped" and you were constantly having to get new cards and re-program cards so your spending so much time dealing with the "un-reliable' TV watching experience that it would have just been cheaper to pay for the service legally in the first place. My solution for these customers has been to just tell them to pay $10 for Netflix and be done with it. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:02 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> wrote: haven't been able to reach him yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeremy <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? Why don't you ask him? On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:21 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> wrote: out of the 250 or so "warnings" received through this morning, about 80% appear to be tv shows and random episodes of such tv shows. that is why i was thinking kodi. perhaps he browsed around just to see what would work and what wouldn't. i've never played with kodi but if this guy has this volume of entertainment on his hard drive i would be surprised and would say he has no life. plus he has been a customer for a while - he isn't anyone new.... :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Reichhart <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? with kodi you can download/add on for like utorrent to download movies or you can also download exodus. _____ -----Original Message----- From: "Joe Novak" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 05/25/17 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? To be honest, unless he is using some odd P2P addon for Kodi it's unlikely. Most of the addons comb the net for the videos and aggregate the links for you to watch on Kodi - which means your not sharing it back. Some kind of popcorn time variant which is built on bittorrent is more likely, but I don't know if any of those still exist. Joe On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 9:09 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> wrote: we have a customer who literally has gotten no fewer than 150 complaints from both fox and ip-echelon ? (sp) in the last 24 hours. either he has downloaded half the internet or perhaps he has one of these new illegal kodi boxes. some of you with more experience than us in dealing with this - is it likely he has a kodi box? The alerts seem almost in real time but then again, they also seem to be coming after we turned his service off.... I know there is a safe harbor provision out there where we could basically put on our website any copyright violations must be delivered to us in writing and we could basically ignore these.....but we haven't gotten that many in the past. thoughts? thanks
