Yes, just need to strive to put the slot down when installing or wrap the block
with some stainless wire.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network
The slot is so you can slip it onto the duct without feeding it through each
block?
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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 6/21/2017 10:46:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network
Yeah, even with a large count fiber it will still float. If you can get
those half cinder blocks and cut a slot in the side they work pretty good. I
calculated how much additional weight you needed once but that was many years
ago.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network
Is that all it takes? Weights so it doesn't float?
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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 6/21/2017 10:38:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network
1.25” is fine, but it will float. On a water crossing you will need cinder
blocks every 10 feet or so to hold it down. Chop a hole out of one of the
sides large enough so the duct can slip inside one of the cavities.
From: Chris Fabien
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network
7. You don't need that large of duct for this, 1" or 1.25" at the most
would be sufficient. Expect to pay around 0.25 per ft for 1" and 0.35 per ft
for 1.25", ballpark numbers.
8. If it's going to all be in conduit, I would use 12F drop cable instead
of "normal" loose tube cable. Actually on a project like this I would just
direct bury the 12F drop with a small drop plow everywhere possible to save
money.
9. We get some nice 17x30x15" HDPE Carson handholes from Milennium in the
$70 range. I think they have a smaller size yet for around $40.
9a. NOPE... I actually tried this, it was a dismal failure. It's hard to
make strong, thin, concrete sections.
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:
adding to list:
7: 2-4 in duct, good price vendors, preference is mutilple innerduct
8. appropriate general purpose fiber for this type of project vendor
9. good price vendor for handholes
9a. would it just be cheaper to form a bunch of handholes and get
concrete at 80 bucks a yard
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:
A few questions, this being a family estate property that was
subdivided into different lots. There are 8 current homes, haven't looked at a
platt map yet to see how the lots are legally divided, so there is that. This
is about interconnecting and somewhere in the mix bringing in interwebs. To run
past all the current lots is roughly 8050 feet. There would be 4 "fingers" the
longest being 3300 feet, passing 3 houses with the longest distance between
those 3 being 1400 feet, 300 feet of this would be underwater.
This is not a ROW, issue, they don't want it in ROW, I assume they need
some sort of legal easement on record for the duct. I know zero about this.
Here are some questions:
1. the underwater part. is that normally duct or just underwater fiber.
1a. this pond is stocked by DNR, does that require some crummy permit
to drop fiber into even though its privately owned, I don't know what the trade
off is for DNR stocking.
2. When passing a lot, do you normally put a handhole in each lot?
3. if a utility ROW is crossed, does that need a permit?
4. Whats the specific terminology, I think its easement, that makes the
duct accessible, like ROW, legally even if the property changes hands
5. How does one get this buried cable/duct into a location service
database
5.a when a locate is called in who pays? (USIC is the locating agency
around here)
6.how much longer will this list of questions get before it gets too
hard
In this instance, it will all be cut trench, that's free, for them.
This is all unincorporated land in a county. however there has been a history
of forced incorporation attempts. should that happen, what happens with this
duct?
assuming there is some chatter on this, anticipate more detailed
questions on tech specs
