Procera boxes can do some neat tricks as you mention for sure… just be sure you 
don’t topple over the box(es) in doing so though as it’s not hard to do (as 
their boxes are not designed for it so understandable) 

Paul


> On Jul 14, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Procera has some tricks in dealing with DDOS too.  I had one of their 
> engineers send me over some ideas a while back.  I have never needed to use 
> it however. But the one good thing about it was that if something happens 
> you'll see where the target of the DDOS is going pretty fast.  At times it is 
> difficult to find when your routers are overloaded.  
> 
> Steven Kenney
> Network Operations Manager
> WaveDirect Telecommunications
> http://www.wavedirect.net
> (519)737-WAVE (9283)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected]>
> To: "af" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:29:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?
> 
> There are companies where you can have them announce your IP space, and 
> they only send you the 'good' traffic. But it costs a hell of a lot more 
> than just upgrading your upstream for most smaller ISPs.
> 
> On 7/13/2017 10:19 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>> Is there a way to do DDOS protection that doesn't involve buying a 
>> bigger bandwidth pipe or initiating some sort of blackhole with your 
>> upstream?
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>    I'm going to be implementing some on-net scrubbing boxes.
>>    Obviously limited by upstream capacity, simply acquire more
>>    upstream capacity.  ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>    <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>    *From: *"Dev" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>    *Sent: *Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:32:53 PM
>>    *Subject: *[AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?
>> 
>>    Who is a good for cost-effective DDoS protection and what are you
>>    paying? My upstream really doesn’t now to handle a DDoS, so I’m
>>    looking for someone to help with some subnets.
>> 
>> 
> 
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