No, you wouldn't be able to use to 40mhz radios on a single 80mhz channel... they'd have to be licensed separately. The fact that you have to license the full 80mhz channel with these radios, isn't really a bad thing (in most cases, anyway)... if you ever need to upgrade to radios that use the whole 80mhz, it should make it cheap and easy. The cost to license 80mhz vs 40mhz is no different, so it's only a problem if you're un a congested area where spectrum isn't available, and if that's the case you probably should be using a more efficient radio anyway.
On Aug 25, 2017 5:31 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> wrote: > So in order to operate an AF11X at its maximum channel width of 56mhz you > would have to register a path for 80mhz license is that true? So basically > your wasting some spectrum right? So could you have dual 40mhz AF11X links > on the same path operating in your licensed 80mhz of spectrum that way your > not wasting any spectrum? Will that or can that even work? > > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Hardy, Tim <[email protected]> wrote: > >> As of today, no US paths have been coordinated or applied for with these >> radios. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Af <[email protected]> on behalf of SmarterBroadband < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:43:08 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >> >> >> Any members using Cablefree Licensed Links? >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Patrick >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:31 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >> >> >> >> Dear all, >> >> >> >> Apologies I've only just seen this post, >> >> A small input from CableFree. Aware we are a vendor so only leaving a >> short post. >> >> >> >> The CableFree FOR3 product line is popular with ISPs in some countries. >> >> Available in many bands including 11GHz (and other bands 5-26GHz, >> including 24 UL, if interested) >> >> >> >> www.cablefree.net/for3 >> >> >> >> Up to 880Mbps full duplex using 1024QAM, single polarisation, and 112MHz >> spectrum. >> >> You can of course set the radio to narrower channels, for example 440Mbps >> full duplex in 56MHz. >> >> This is a "telecom design" FDD radio with separate transmit/receive >> channels, so you get symmetric links up/down and low latency. >> >> >> >> Comments & questions welcome - >> >> Best regards >> >> Stephen >> >> >> >> On 31 May 2017 at 16:58, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> How many usable 11ghz channels are there? I looked on the Mimosa cloud >> map and only one other 11ghz registered link in my area and it doesn't >> appear to be in path with any of my towers. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Yep, called links J >> >> >> >> >> >> *Dennis Burgess** β Network Solution Engineer β Consultant * >> >> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant >> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> β >> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE >> >> >> >> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net >> >> Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com >> >> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270> >> >> E-Mail: [email protected] >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:09 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >> >> >> >> We are on TowerCoverage. I did not know it did path calcs. >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess >> *Sent:* Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:56 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >> >> >> >> Towercoverage.com has done 11ghz for years J >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Hardy, Tim >> *Sent:* Saturday, May 27, 2017 6:04 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >> >> >> >> Found this on ubnt forum - can't comment on accuracy. FYI, we use >> PathLoss. >> >> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/New-AF11FX-Link-Calcu >> lator/m-p/1741139#M32848 >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Af <[email protected]> on behalf of SmarterBroadband < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 8:17:46 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >> >> >> >> Well I suppose I could, but hell I donβt want to.. π >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 2:22 PM >> *To:* af <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >> >> >> >> I think they have that stuff in airlink, but you can always just look up >> the spec sheets for all the relevant parts and calculate it manually. >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I can use Link Planner to check LOS. But the 820 in Link Planner will >> have very different radio Tx powers and receive sensitivities. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 1:07 PM >> *To:* af <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >> >> >> >> I think airlink,ubnt.com supports 11ghz now, so that can be used to get >> a fairly good idea of what it's going to do... also, Mimosa's tool is >> pretty nice. >> >> But when you know you have a clear path and what the distance is, it's >> not very hard to calculate what the link is going to do... frequency >> planning is done by your coordinator. >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, SmarterBroadband <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Using? >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM >> *To:* af <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >> >> >> >> DIY >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:45 PM, SmarterBroadband <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> How are you Link Planning your AF11 links? >> >> >> >> Does UBNT do link Planning? >> >> >> >> Reseller? >> >> >> >> DIY? >> >> >> >> Other?? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM >> *To:* af <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences >> >> >> >> We have one up... other than some very ugly issues right after we put it >> up (which was apparently a bug in the firmware they shipped with... >> upgrading to the latest beta firmware fixed it), it has been working >> perfectly, and I haven't touched it since. >> >> The AF11 is certainly worth a look in my opinion, but it all depends on >> what you need it to do. >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Ignoring a few software bugs and delayed fixes, it's good for '2nd >> string' links. If this is for high priority link, I'd try SIAE or Cambium. >> >> Jon Langeler >> >> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >> >> >> >> >> On May 25, 2017, at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network. >> >> >> >> Does anyone actually have the AF11 in service. Is it worth a look? How >> is it performing for you? Any issues? >> >> >> >> Just not sure if it is worth considering or should I be looking at >> existing companied like; >> >> >> >> Exalt ? >> >> Dragonwave ? >> >> SAIE ? >> >> >> >> Or newer ones like >> >> >> >> Alcoma >> >> Cablefree FOR3 >> >> >> >> Anyone tried the last two? >> >> >> >> Just looking for best bang for the buck in non core ring usage. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
