Jirous 4' also only meet Cat B and would also be subject to upgrade at the licensee's expense. ________________________________ From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 6:58:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences
Yes. It is a pretty effective way to make use of a dual polarity 80 MHz channel that you might upgrade to much more expensive equipment someday. $799 + additional diplexer per end for radio vs $6000 to $9000 per end with expensive stuff. The only caveat being that if you install an AF11 link with the 3' Jirous dishes you might be forced to upgrade to better dishes someday in the future if another operator can't coordinate an 11 GHz link because of your stuff. The Jirous 3' are reasonably priced but have pretty big sidelobes and not the best f/b ratio compared to more expensive dishes. On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: So in order to operate an AF11X at its maximum channel width of 56mhz you would have to register a path for 80mhz license is that true? So basically your wasting some spectrum right? So could you have dual 40mhz AF11X links on the same path operating in your licensed 80mhz of spectrum that way your not wasting any spectrum? Will that or can that even work? On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Hardy, Tim <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: As of today, no US paths have been coordinated or applied for with these radios. ________________________________ From: Af <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of SmarterBroadband <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:43:08 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Any members using Cablefree Licensed Links? From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Stephen Patrick Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:31 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Dear all, Apologies I've only just seen this post, A small input from CableFree. Aware we are a vendor so only leaving a short post. The CableFree FOR3 product line is popular with ISPs in some countries. Available in many bands including 11GHz (and other bands 5-26GHz, including 24 UL, if interested) www.cablefree.net/for3<http://www.cablefree.net/for3> Up to 880Mbps full duplex using 1024QAM, single polarisation, and 112MHz spectrum. You can of course set the radio to narrower channels, for example 440Mbps full duplex in 56MHz. This is a "telecom design" FDD radio with separate transmit/receive channels, so you get symmetric links up/down and low latency. Comments & questions welcome - Best regards Stephen On 31 May 2017 at 16:58, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: How many usable 11ghz channels are there? I looked on the Mimosa cloud map and only one other 11ghz registered link in my area and it doesn't appear to be in path with any of my towers. On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yep, called links ☺ Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant<http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com<http://www.towercoverage.com/> Office: 314-735-0270<tel:(314)%20735-0270> E-Mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:09 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences We are on TowerCoverage. I did not know it did path calcs. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:56 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Towercoverage.com has done 11ghz for years ☺ From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 6:04 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Found this on ubnt forum - can't comment on accuracy. FYI, we use PathLoss. https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/New-AF11FX-Link-Calculator/m-p/1741139#M32848 ________________________________ From: Af <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of SmarterBroadband <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:17:46 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Well I suppose I could, but hell I don’t want to.. 😊 From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:22 PM To: af <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences I think they have that stuff in airlink, but you can always just look up the spec sheets for all the relevant parts and calculate it manually. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I can use Link Planner to check LOS. But the 820 in Link Planner will have very different radio Tx powers and receive sensitivities. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:07 PM To: af <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences I think airlink,ubnt.com<http://ubnt.com> supports 11ghz now, so that can be used to get a fairly good idea of what it's going to do... also, Mimosa's tool is pretty nice. But when you know you have a clear path and what the distance is, it's not very hard to calculate what the link is going to do... frequency planning is done by your coordinator. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, SmarterBroadband <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Using? From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM To: af <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences DIY On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:45 PM, SmarterBroadband <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: How are you Link Planning your AF11 links? Does UBNT do link Planning? Reseller? DIY? Other?? From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM To: af <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences We have one up... other than some very ugly issues right after we put it up (which was apparently a bug in the firmware they shipped with... upgrading to the latest beta firmware fixed it), it has been working perfectly, and I haven't touched it since. The AF11 is certainly worth a look in my opinion, but it all depends on what you need it to do. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Ignoring a few software bugs and delayed fixes, it's good for '2nd string' links. If this is for high priority link, I'd try SIAE or Cambium. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On May 25, 2017, at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network. Does anyone actually have the AF11 in service. Is it worth a look? How is it performing for you? Any issues? Just not sure if it is worth considering or should I be looking at existing companied like; Exalt ? Dragonwave ? SAIE ? Or newer ones like Alcoma Cablefree FOR3 Anyone tried the last two? Just looking for best bang for the buck in non core ring usage.
